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POSTED BY: SpaceGeneral
UPDATED: Saturday, May 29, 2004 02:29
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Go watch Power Rangers. I hear they got rid of half of them.
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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
If you're going to do a sci-fi based on a western premise without aliens, what's the point ? B]
I'm still scratching my head as to what in the hell Aliens and Westerns have to do with each other
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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.
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It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....
Why is it that people who have no valid argument to offer, throw out the afore mentioned quote? I'm supposed to be arrogant if I believe that there is no sentient life outside of our own? The pitiful excuse for an argument that statement is, leaves little to form a thought provoking and worthwhile debate about. However, in my arrogance, I believe I can. Scientifically there is little to suggest the possibility of aliens, especially in the form in which we like to create them. Scientists say that if alien life is found anywhere we could ever conceivably come in contact with it, it will be in a far different form than an actual sentient life form. Perhaps some goo that has organic elements not found anywhere on earth. I have to say, I like me my science. We use it to disprove theories of the Bible that suggest Earth is not billions but thousands of years old. And the beauty of it is that you can only disprove, never prove anything, leaving the future open to all kinds of new discoveries. I am not saying that its not possible, and neither is Joss Whedon. Just because the world he creates doesn't have aliens in it, doesn't mean that they don't exist in his mind, or in anyone else's mind, or at all. Just as his use of vampires and demons in his other shows does not mean he believes in them (which he doesn't) . Either way, those who share this belief are not arrogant, I am not running around shouting I am the greatest being in all the universe because there are no aliens! Hey, I would love to find life out there, and I think we should keep on looking, arrogance be damned!
As for the whole topic of this thread, it is a TV show, that we here at this board like. Each character is indispensable so much that Joss said he would not have done the movie if they hadn't all signed on to come back. Critics have raved about his ability to have nine rich and distinct characters on one show, instead of the cookie-cutter characters on other Sci Fi series that you can't tell apart after a while. Firefly is a character driven show, it is not about space, it is not about the future, these are all background elements that enhance the story that is really about the people on this ship. If you want aliens, mind-numbing characters, and a show about crap that has no relevance to the present, then go watch a different show…you certainly won't be happy at this one.
Was that strong enough for ya?
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss
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People, people, people.
Do *not* feed the trolls.
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Perhaps there is a Joss in an alternate universe who would agree with you. I'll let the Joss in this one call the shots on his show.
MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."
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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
get rid of half the crew
introduce alien life forms
if there are too many people and you need aliens, me thinks ya need to find another show.
"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."
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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear, weak responses.
I dunno...does anyone else get an impression of a little white rabbit with a big pocket watch wringing his hands?
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I find it unbelieveable a television series set in space and having no aliens.
You gotta love this guy...at least he's interested enough to seek us out in order to criticize a show of which he didn't watch half the episodes. Right kind of him to go through all that trouble seein' as as he's saddled with that cruel inability to spell sixth grade words. (It's supposed to be "unbelievable".)
I'm not making fun of the SpaceBunny. Believe it or not, it is very valuable to have a person like this post here. It's important to understand that people with uninformed opinions often make judgements on things it knows nothing about. It's a great life lesson. Hey, mayhap this was one of them decision-makers on Fox? You know the type...
"Well, the ratings weren't where we'd hoped they'd be by the fifth episode and the lack of aliens really detracted from the demographic that likes seeing actors with latex applications pretending to be from 'out there...' Yes, four points out of top for Nielsen's in it's time slot, but critical acclaim isn't everything... What? No, I never actually watched the show, we have people who do that for us, why?"
Where would Mal be without the Alliance? Exactly.
So, where would we be without this guy?
Hey, if he don't wanna watch the whole series but still asks fool questions and the like, (such as: "how many planets are inhabited by people...") that's his 'verse and he's welcome to populate it by his own damn self. For the rest of us, we can learn to just smile and nod like the opinion means something. (It's the neighborly thing to do, I'm thinking...)
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Am I missing something, please do tell.... It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....
I surely think this person is missing something, and that's certain. However, it ain't our job to learn him better if comes around with an attitude for harping instead of learning.(I just love this style of talking...don't you?)
Besides, don't you think it's kind of arrogant to believe that only one kind of opinion or one kind of show is right for Sci-Fi? There's room enough for everyone if folk don't go shoving each other like they're worth more'n others. O'course, some folk just have to go shovin', them lacking manners and all.
(By the way...it's supposed to be spelled "inhabitants".)
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I find it unbelieveable a television series set in space and having no aliens.
We're alone, deal with it. Even if there are aliens, they aint comin and they aint bringin Elvis back.
The odds of findin another life inhabited planet is astonomical, with an 'r' and probably other letters, and the chances of them being evolved enough for us to care about them are even bigger.
Or so more advanced they wouldn't care about us.
Face it they aint there, and if they are they aint comin.
oh, i'm going to that special part of hell
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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
How many planets exist in the Firefly Universe, surely Earth is not the only one that could sustain life on its own merit ?
It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....
About 70 planets.
Watch the show
oh, i'm going to that special part of hell
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I really love this show, but I think Space General has made some good points. Besides I think the Reevers will turn out to be alieans. And its true that some people were confused by so many characters. Friends was a big success and it only had five regular characters. the other were occasional as Space general suggested.
There's no point in being mean just because people see ways to improve the show.
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