Information Overload
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 22:45
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I'll play:
Holy Sh!t
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=36080
Nuff said.
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Forced conformity is bad. Children are far more capable of thinking than we give them credit for, As a child, my tormentors were other children. Some of my friends were tortured by their parents. Not all of them recognized it as abuse per se, but all of them wanted to leave.
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Rue,
You are between a rock and hard place. You might try "leaving" articles where that Mom can pick them up and read them in private.
Or do like my daughter's first grade teacher did. She very gently told me that she wasn't a doctor and couldn't diagnose things but that my daughter was having problems in class (you might substitute play group) and gently suggested that she needs to be seen by a professional.
In the end it turned out that she was absolutely right, My daughter has Asparger's Syndrome. She wasn't formally diagnosed with Asparger's until she was 12 or so and was originally diagnosed with ADHD at age 6 by her pediatrician. I knew something else was going on besides the ADHD and had even had her hearing checked at a year old but couldn't put my finger on it.
She wasn't formally diagnosed as an Aspie until she was 12 and as the counselor told me at the time, "It's just a label for someone who doesn't have severe autism but is on the high end of the Autism Spectrum."
She has a constellation of things going on, ADHD, social frustration, the feeling of being bombarded by stimuli (that makes her want to withdraw)and some learning differences.
One thing that's really helped her is just talking to a counselor that specializes in children and adolescents. Just having a non parent/family member to listen to her and provide support has helped her enormously. She's gone to the same one since she was 9.
We've formed an informal team of me, my daughter, the counselor and a psychiatrist, who together decide things. She's been fully involved since about age 14 and to a limited extent before then.
Together we've tried things from brushing (even scratching her back lightly or massage really relieves her built up tension and frustration, it seems to be the stimulation that does it. It blocks out the bombardment in some way)) to various drugs.
If the drugs didn't work they were quickly stopped to the point that she only takes one for depression (it's a family tendency, I have it too) and Adderrall SR for her college classes and study times. It's up to her to determine when she needs it and to take it.
She's still full of quirks and not everyone accepts her. She loves routine and changes have to be introduced slowly. She dresses in loose, mostly cotton clothes (full polyester and wool especially, really irritates her). She has few actual friends but the computer has been her savior and one day soon the world will have a very creative web page designer/hopeful RPG designer.
BTW She was the one that dragged me to a showing of "Serenity" and after I found this website told me to "Embrace my inner geek." which I have done with gusto. So much for normalcy. LOL.
http://fireflyfaninnc.livejournal.com/
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Hey Fremmy,
It's the whisper that carries like a scream.
It always helps to whack 'em over the head with a cast-iron frying pan as they lean in to hear, eh Fremmy?
The Totally Kidding SGGisall!
Tawabawho?
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Some of em, yeah, just because. 
Part of it is folks thinking my stuff is aimed at the conscious mind, at folks logic and reason, which, factually, it ain't.
I strike deeper than that, aiming for the same depth that music, poetry and art reach, inside a persons subconscious, attempting to reach the crushed and battered childhood locked neatly in a cage and told to stay out of the way so that we can pay the bills and fit in with a society that makes us the dark slaves of wicked masters.
I wanna reach that cage, and pick the lock.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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I agree but it depends on the effect desired and the receiving end. Do you want to reach as many people as possible, meaning the masses, or do you want to reach out to specific individuals.
The art of communicating effectively takes a boatload of money, because only messages that are repeated endlessly get through. Ergo, the most effective communicators are corporations and their admen, and churches.
There are those that may be bored, or may not "get" what is said in a Sunday Sermon. Or may find the ads lacking in cohesive intelligence. We have been conditioned to channel surf and move on to the next thing (SAP) with ever-increasing speed.
Tawabawho?
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Good points all. I was more thinking of the difficulty of reaching useful information, or communicating it through the din of the web. One can inundate oneself with an infinite quantity of information supporting not only one's own views, but also keeping an extremely narrow focus on very little actual underlying data.
Those who master information theory will be the ones who communicate, not those with money. Everyone might recall in a couple years back that Will Wheaton had more influence than President George W. Bush. It's an art, and one I'm interested in. I think Pirate News has some theories on it, some of which he sent me personally, and much thanks.
Anyone else have a take, feel free. If anyone's interested in the idea, we could start our own "Can't stop the signal" thread to discuss it.
One thought that's occurred is that there is too much chaos here. Most threads are someone holding forth and others arguing with them, short lived divisive clutter that burries more interesting ideas. No offense to those who have done it, we've all done it, except for maybe the odd lurker or two, but if I have a lord he'd know I've done it.
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SGG, in all honest truth, mostly I hang here to chat with interesting folk, but if you mean who I'd mean to reach by the way I say things...
No, I'm not aiming to reach the masses, it's not my forte although if needs be I could maybe do it - I leave that end of things to folk far better at it than I am, cause to do so leaves me feeling disgusted and aggressive towards other human beings moreso than normal due to having to appeal to a trained-in nature that I consider both sociopathic and borderlining on evil.
I aim to reach certain folk, those words, to the people I mean to reach with them, strike true straight to the heart, not the mind, and they reasonate with certain truths (subjective ones, mind you) that are buried within their psyche, but it's not something I am very good at explaining, but HKCavalier is, when he chooses to post.
Believe me, I do reach my intended "audience" that way quite effectively, but I choose to communicate in the same form around here because I shouldn't have to put on airs or dress things up to chat with folks I consider as much friends as the anonymous nature of this medium allows.
I make a similar argument to the churchies, when I bother to actually show up, being that I am Unitarian Universalist in general, much of their congregation shows up in "sunday best" and I do not.
Whenever comment of that is made, I simply point out that you dress up to go to a strangers house, but you do not when visiting an old friend, and what does that say about the folks sittin in the rows today, eh ?
Same principle applies in essence, to communicating here.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Fremmy,
SGG, in all honest truth, mostly I hang here to chat with interesting folk,
Oh, I know my friend. There are several folk here that communicate well in this little 'verse of ours - you, Siggy, Rue, Chrisisall to name a few. I was responding to something Siggy had posted on 12/16. I must admit that I had just gotten home from work (I work the graveyard shift) and I was a bit groggy when I wrote it.
When I read it over I could see that I was a little unclear as to my point. But no, I do know that you choose your words carefully and strive to be as effective as possible in making your point. For the most part, when I read your comments, I pretty much "get" where you're coming from. I always thought that it was better to speak TO someone than AT someone.
The churchies, don't get me started! Sunday best, gorram hypocrites. I have nothing against those who choose to pursue the "higher ground" but, more times than not, it winds up being abuse and exploitation of poor folk. But don't get me wrong, given the right type of folk it could serve a positive purpose, much like this forum.
And it is connected to communication.
The information overload on the net has made the world smaller or more accessible to more folk. It is my belief that one must wade through all the bullshit and focus upon what will serve their purpose in life. Whatever is important to you well, is important to you, and one must follow their heart and that one thing that makes them go.
For me it is family. I believe that is why I'm a Firefly Fan.
(Below is Siggy's post)
SGG
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The art of communicating effectively through the morass of noise is one which will take some time to master, but only those who do will be heard of the din of six billion voices babbling on billions of sites across the net.
The art of communicating effectively takes a boatload of money, because only messages that are repeated endlessly get through. Ergo, the most effective communicators are corporations and their admen, and churches.
That being said:
Words make the difference. If you use words that peeps want to hear, no matter what the content, they'll eat it up.
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Tawabawho?
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And I applaud that good advice, and ! actually being on topic !. I disagree that it takes cash, but I won't doubt that the faux-grass roots end user campaigns like Yes We Can and Obama Girl were backed by MSM and cash.
Conservatives, I grant, are unable to make such a connect because of a resistance to shaking their underweared asses for the camera.
Yah, get out those Palin girls, and have them make out - with each other. Then subliminally include messages for the need for increased drilling and rapid penetration of the oil reserves to restore our energy and make America feel Orgaaaaaa-nized again.
Oh, we could do it, we just have to get over our own stolid hangups. A little irreverence helps.
I tried to organize people to make viral videos, and then I realized the need for organization. Lots were willing, but everyone was working, and so no one had the time. We got started, and never got anywhere. I mean, there are things you can do with O-Bomb-a, (B'Iraq, or Whose'sayin'?) without getting too offensive. I thought the easiest thing to exploit was how incredibly bigoted the opposition was being towards rural America. Essentially, the DNC took the attitude of "you guys are a bunch of retarded losers, and we're going to nail your asses to the wall." And a lot of rural people voted for it. Just like, in '08 as in '04, lots of peaceniks went out and voted for the candidate who promised more war, in fact, the most war, both times.
There was endless material, we just need the organization, and the ability to shake our asses and make fun of ourselves.
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