Firefly Conspiracy Theories

POSTED BY: Quicksand
UPDATED: Thursday, May 27, 2004 01:11
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QUICKSAND

Monday, May 24, 2004 7:02 PM

Well, I can't really dispute such a well-researched arguement. The only thing it's really got going against it is, it's too freakin' Out There. It's a big universe... for any of these characters to know any of the others before they meet IS pushing the strains of credibility, but... when you said Book was looking at his own hands in "Objects in Space," that pretty much sold me.

But don't think I won't check the DVD's, there, soldier.

ZOID

Monday, May 24, 2004 8:08 PM

Delia, Mistress of the Tomes, et mon frères et soeures:

Hiya! Yep, it's Monday, so we got a new 'future quote'. That leaves only one more to complete the series -- River's, next Monday. That will be the end of my little story, and like all endings, parting will be sweet sorrow.

You know by now that all my 'quotes' have just as much irony and hidden information as I can put in them and still keep them sound-bite sized. So, if you think there's something twitchy, there definitely is; whether it's what you think I mean or not, is a different kettle of fish.

After letting that final 'quote' ripen in the minds of FFFn's readership for a week, I'll do a new-thread single-post of all the quotes, along with a brief description (yeah, right; could be you're not remembering some of zoid's previous posts) of the hidden meanings and other bits of fluff I've included. Take most of the guesswork out of it; I ain't gonna leave y'all hanging like Joss did... Unless of course, y'all ask me not to.

Here's a taste: The big twist on Simon's 'quote' from last week is that it's a paraphrased (cause Simon would never say "ain't") play on the words Early spoke when Simon stated, "So, you're a bounty hunter." Early replies, "No, that ain't it at all. (Then what are you?) I'm a bounty hunter." I felt that was the episode in which Simon kind of came into his own, stopped just letting things happen to him. Remember, according to Early, he's truly a doctor now that he's been shot. It made sense to pay homage to Early in a roundabout way, while simultaneously having Simon finally 'find his moment'.

And yes, as Delia pointed out last week, Simon is a father of 4, while Kaylee Tam is a mother of 6. Without being too specific, I figure Simon would've gone back to the Core, during which time Kaylee would have engaged in another relationship. Eventually they would have gotten back together (remember, JW's projected 7-year series run would have been a lot of time for stuff to develop) and settled away from the Core on Jiangyin, where he and River were kidnapped in "Safe". Simon's a true doctor and would have recognized the value in rendering service where it's most needed; likewise, Kaylee would make a fine country doctor's wife. Think "Doc Hollywood", a movie I highly recommend not only for its message but for Julie Warner's tribute to Gray's Anatomy (just in case somebody was planning on accusing me of strict chivalry).

Y'all have fun at work; today's my Saturday!

Respectfully,

zoid
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"I'm telling you right now. When all's said and done, that little girl's gonna change the world. Not just this little bit she's done here, neither; big things. I couldn't be prouder if she was my own daughter."

- Malcolm Reynolds, owner-operator of Firefly-class transport, "Serenity"; from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard

HUMBLE

Monday, May 24, 2004 8:17 PM

Book is definitely an enigma wrapped in a riddle. I don't know if he's an Alliance officer or Fed for certain. He does have some expertise with weapons and tactics though. At a guess, I'd say he was in covert ops(black ops/intelligence) working for a government agency. His becoming religious may have been the result of some life-changing event. Perhaps having something to do with the war. He may have some sort of affiliation with the Alliance but I don't think it's a malevolent one for the Serenity crew. On a side note though, he wasn't around when the Blue-Glovers were coming for River in the hospital. Unless these guys can be everywhere at once, or there are clones of the same two guys, how could they have gotten to the hospital so fast? Could Book have sent them a wave?

Food for thought at least.

GREGGALLINSON

Monday, May 24, 2004 9:26 PM

I think Book's a retired Blue Sun exec...maybe even the founder of Blue Sun. The idea that he's ex-Alliance or an Alliance spy makes sense, but I like to be contrary:)

DELIA

Monday, May 24, 2004 11:08 PM

Zoid,

Thanks for the lovely explanation and the tres cool new title -- I may just have to make Mistress of the Tomes my new tag line.

I shall be awaiting both the River quote and the explanation with great interest -- I'd very much like to see your explanation for all the quotes with any bits of story you might decide to fill in.

Hope you had a nice day off.

Delia

___________________________________________
ANYA: Don't be ridiculous. Martha Stewart isn't a demon. She's a witch.
XANDER: Please, she-- Really?
ANYA: Of course. Nobody could do that much decoupage without calling on the powers of darkness.

DAVCO92

Monday, May 24, 2004 11:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Quicksand:
I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

I understood perfectly Quicksand, I just don't think that's what's going on. However, I was trying to support your idea with an alternate interpretation and "stir the pot" so to speak. That's all. Keep those ideas coming, they're always welcome around here. At least we know that a year from now we'll find out more...

Burn the land, boil the sea...

HELL'S KITTEN

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:56 AM

Book. What a wacky guy.

I haven't given it as much thought as... oh... say, Zoid... has (which was quite interesting, by the way), but if you're gonna go into the cut scenes and deleted lines from shooting scripts, here's my sleepy theory:

I think The Message has most of the clues. Book seems to know an awful lot about police procedure and jurisdiction and whatnot. In the cut lines near the end, where Womack decides it's best to leave, there are a lot of things that Book says that were taken out which seem to go in depth about procedures and bad cops being on the take. Sometimes the clues are better observed in the things They didn't want to tell you, rather than in the cryptic things they did tell you. Uh, anyway, the one cut that stands out the most is this little exchange:

JAYNE: Either you spent a lotta time fightin' bad cops... or being one.

BOOK: Maybe both.

Now, that's not a whole lot in itself, but when you put it together with all the bits Jayne's been saying throughout the series, all of which has been seemingly ignored by everyone else, it seems to me to look a little like he leaned more towards a law-enforcement type of career.

Under-cover agents, ex-war generals...that all seems a bit...I dunno...not quite right for something Mr. J. would do.... What keeps popping up in my head over and over is this: Witness Protection Program. Maybe of the not-so-voluntary kind? (Could explain how he got into and outta the Alliance medical facility easy peasy.)

I guess the beauty of theories is that it's not up to me to prove mine right, it's up to you to prove it wrong.

(I s'pose I should have put a disclaimer at the top of this stating "I'm tired and may not comprehend what I'm typing." So, read this part first, then read the rest.) Although that Wash character is awfully sinister....

LITTLEMANLOVESFIRE

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:07 PM

I very much doubt his name is Richard Wilkins since that was the name of the Mayor in Season 3 of Buffy...

ZOID

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:31 PM

Littlemanlovesfire wrote:

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I very much doubt his name is Richard Wilkins since that was the name of the Mayor in Season 3 of Buffy...

Well, you have me at a disadvantage. Although I have tried to watch BtVS and Angel, I've never been able to appreciate those shows. The cast and feel of those shows was too young, too high school/post-high school/pre-mortgage for me to personally relate to. Therefore, I suspect I'm a rarity around these parts: someone who came to love Firefly on its own merits, not strictly based on Joss Whedon's reputation. So, if you say there was a character in BtVS named Richard Wilkins, I'll just have to take your word for it.

Still, I'll stick to my interpretation of the clues: Book is General Richard Wilkins, until Joss proves otherwise. Bounty hunters don't get preferential treatment aboard Alliance/BlueSun cruisers; assassins and spies (and bounty hunters and crime lords) don't carry identity cards in their pants pockets that identify them as assassins and spies (and bounty hunters and crime lords). Show me the undercover FBI/CIA/DEA operative that has an Agency ID on his person while working a case, and I'll show you a guy who made a fatal error, a dead operative. Book may have been a judge or a lawman, but he's always been on the right side of the law, and he's being honest when he shows his dedication to his religion and care for the crew.

I'll say it again, he's former Alliance/BlueSun military, disgraced by his superiors' actions into joining the priesthood. He is now, and always has been a man of honor, who values integrity. Think, if you will, of our sad little king of a sad little hill, Badger. This is a man with no morals, no honor and no integrity. Do you see the physical parallels to Book? Can you imagine Badger pulling off the Shepherd ruse, pretending to be a God-fearing man of principles?

Yeah, neither can I.

Still, one other possible explanation of Book's mystery is that he's... wait for it... AN ACT-TOR! Unceremoniously dumped by the BlueSun TV Network after his last show (some improbable piece of dreck in which a precocious teen becomes a doctor at the busiest hospital in the Core; Book played the hospital administrator; the 'crazy sister' character was a hoot!) was cancelled due to poor ratings after only 10 episodes, Book now wanders the 'verse hot on the trail of Reavers, researching his next project tentatively titled, "A Reaver Runs Through It", in which he will play a Presbyterian minister trying to raise two very wild boys (it's a comedy, with fly fishing, cannibalism and leathermaking). Yes, he must be an actor, and a very good one at that. There is no other explanation for a bad man pretending so successfully to be a good one, who at every glance has the physical posture of someone with humility, grace, forthrightness and mercy. When River finds him praying in OoG, was he secretly plotting to steal one of the shuttles, or was he 'in character'?... When River destroys the labelling for the tinned foodstuffs, does Book go off on her, or does he stay 'in character'?

He's a genuinely good man. He's always been a good man, a man of principles. Sometimes life throws good men a wicked curveball. They suffer setbacks, more so than evil men do, because of their principles; they are not willing to do whatever it takes to stay on top. Book's hidden story has to do with the wicked curveball a good man got struck out by. That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

Respectfully,

zoid
_________________________________________________

"I'm telling you right now. When all's said and done, that little girl's gonna change the world. Not just this little bit she's done here, neither; big things. I couldn't be prouder if she was my own daughter."

- Malcolm Reynolds, owner-operator of Firefly-class transport, "Serenity"; from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence Wilkins, Richard

DELIA

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Littlemanlovesfire:
I very much doubt his name is Richard Wilkins since that was the name of the Mayor in Season 3 of Buffy...

I had never noticed that -- I guess since they mostly called him the Mayor. Very cool inside joke, then, since you can hear the "Richard Wil--" part in the deleted scene.

Okay, I'll add my crazy theory. Book actually IS the Mayor of Sunnydale (oh, come one, SOMEONE was going to type it, and it might as well be me). After he turned into a giant snake and got blown up, he spent a few 100 years in a hell dimension, and now he's looking to atone for his crimes. Ultimately, he plans to use his demon-becoming skills for the good of mankind, and become a huge creature who can subdue the Reavers and bring them into the light.

Anybody? Hellllooooo? *Delia looks sadly around the hastily exited room, sighs, turns out the lights, straightens her tasteful tin foil hat, and goes home*

___________________________________________
ANYA: Don't be ridiculous. Martha Stewart isn't a demon. She's a witch.
XANDER: Please, she-- Really?
ANYA: Of course. Nobody could do that much decoupage without calling on the powers of darkness.

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