Impressed: (Zoe & Wash talk)
POSTED BY: QueenTiye
UPDATED: Sunday, November 17, 2002 19:19
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I guess I'm the only one who STILL doesn't get Zoe & Wash! I'm impressed that everyone else seemingly does! I can't stand watching the two of them together. Anyone want to convince me to the contrary?
QT
QueenTiye, Companion Academy, class of 2006
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Glad to give it a try. Zoe and WAsh are my favorite characters. I got into the show because of Alan Tudyk. I think he is a phenomenal actor. I'm a sucker for a good romance, so they appeal to that part of me. But i can't go for something too sappy. IT works because they are so different: zoe is kinda of uptight and warrior-like, whereas WAsh is laid-back and funny. I guess the differences between them help make it intersting. It makes me want to know why they originally got together. I think that individually, they both have a lot of potential as well. Good dialogue. I want more background info on Wash. He's still a mystery.
agh.. I have to go get ready for trick-or-treating 
I'll continue this later.
What is it that you DON'T like about them?
~*Saint of Cheese*~
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What is it that you DON'T like about them?
~*Saint of Cheese*~
Well... I don't think I like Wash period. Of all the characters, he is the one I like the least. And Zoe's deadpan attitude irritates me, but she is starting to grow on me, and I'm starting to see the person behind the 'tude.
What bothers me is them as a couple. To me there is no romantic chemistry whatsoever between them. When I see them together it is slightly jarring to my senses.
Nevertheless - everyone else seems to "get" them together. I tend to think that my prejudice against Wash is tainting my view - I don't like him, and so therefore nobody else should like him. I'd rather see Zoe with just about any other male on the ship.
QT
QueenTiye, Companion Academy, class of 2006
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hmph! *looks hurt* 
Well, I can see there's no hope.. I love Wash. He's my absolute favorite character on the show, so I truly can't relate to what you said. I see a lot of chemistry.
But we're obviously on totally different wavelengths, and it seems unfixable.
~*Saint of Cheese*~
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I didn't think that they were very well-matched at first, and thought Zoe deserved a real man (like GT's real-life man) but then last night they convinced me.
I like them ok apart, but together in their bedroom scene they were GREAT! I loved Wash's logic, Zoe's sexy exhaustion, her sweaty shoulders...
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Zoe and Wash are a classic case of a strong woman being the dominant personality in the relationship and the man letting her boss him around because.....hey.....he likes it. 
. Ok, seriously, I think Wash is a big goof and sorta sardonic to everyone but Zoe and Zoe is really sarcastic and very stand-offish to everyone but Wash, they are very caring and sweet to one another and only one another, like, come see my softer side. and, the 
must be great from what we saw in 'Shindig'.
Commander Elka,
The bumpkiniest of the Bumpkin Army.
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At first when I saw Zoe and Wash I thought they made a very strange combination. But I began to see they worked because the different personalities of the characters which made them an unusual but great paring and I also think the actor have chemistry with each other
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Ok, seriously, I think Wash is a big goof and sorta sardonic to everyone but Zoe and Zoe is really sarcastic and very stand-offish to everyone but Wash, they are very caring and sweet to one another and only one another, like, come see my softer side.
Exactly! I think that pretty much sums it all up nicely! I love Wash and Zoe so much... I've had a conversation about them with a friend (who also watches Firefly) at 11:00 PM about them that lasted well over an hour and resulted in some scribbles of a fanfic (that I'm not sure will ever be actually typed into a story) by her in the three and a half hour car trip we took to Boston the next day.
They need their own episode, with them as the major A plot. We've been getting little glimpses of the nuances of their relationship, but not enough to satisfy... just enough to make me want more very badly!
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"Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower... somewhat less attractive now that she's all corpsified and gross..."
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Originally posted by QueenTiye:
I guess I'm the only one who STILL doesn't get Zoe & Wash! I'm impressed that everyone else seemingly does! I can't stand watching the two of them together. Anyone want to convince me to the contrary?
QT
QueenTiye, Companion Academy, class of 2006
It's the magnet thing -- opposites attract. They both appear to be the type of people who would wear "masks" and maybe under the maks they are more alike than they seem? It could be they're the type of people that the more they downplay it, the more important it is.
On the other hand, it could be like Nynaeve and Lan (Wheel of Time, Robert Jordan); they are a couple because the writer said they are a couple, and any evidence against it is circumstantial! (at least in the case of Nynaeve and Lan. Making sense of those two is like
!)Sensou
Sweet is love when all is sane
Sweet is death to end the pain
Cruel is death when all is well
Curel is love when all is hell
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Opposites attract. (If same attracted same then Zoe would be with Mal...now wouldn't that suck?)
Face it, he's the Yang to her Yin (yes I know I got the male/female thing backwards, but, hey, she wears the pants in this relationship doesn't she?) Besides, having two widely divergent personalities in a relationship is perfect fodder for writers to have a field day with. (Something they have been milking since episode 1 I might add.)
Anyhow don't you all think it's both fun and ironic to have a powerful, tough, black woman and a weak (though funny), submissive white man together? Personally I find the reverse stereotype (or whatever the hell you call it) quite rich. :)
Beware the bucket, and...mop...I think...
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