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5 things that TSCC could really improve upon

POSTED BY: somaholiday
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 01:10
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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 1:01 PM

I think I get it now. The weekly episodes are NOT meant to flow into eachother as a straight line story, instead they're just vignettes of the larger struggle. They are filled with current events, as well as individual flashbacks to the future. Characters are introduced, and possible plot lines are opened, but the show doesn't follow through on them, it just side-steps them. And that timeline, that poor timeline!@ More and more people "know" about J Day and terminators, and more and more are coming back to pollute the present, so I'd be amazed if there really could be any recognizable future considering all the contamination that has occurred. I guess from Sarah's point view, there is no future except for the one she makes.

I must say, that for my money, nothing in this show has given me the belief that John Connor will be the future leader of the resistance. He doesn't have the wisdom, communication or leadership qualities that will be necessary. I found the end of T3 much more satisfying and believable as to the leadership development of John Connor. When he and Kate Brewster go into that bunker, and when he picks up that microphone to respond to a desperate call from another base, that is when he starts to become the legend that he is destined to be.

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 4:36 PM

I agree with you about John's leadership capabilities... although I think that might be something done purposefully, so they can begin developing them as the show progresses. Up till now, however, I feel like they really haven't started down that road yet (making John into more of a leader). I wish they would.

And JSF, my critique of the acting was actually directed at all the Non terminators, but as I've said, it's gotten better.

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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:11 PM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:

I must say, that for my money, nothing in this show has given me the belief that John Connor will be the future leader of the resistance. He doesn't have the wisdom, communication or leadership qualities that will be necessary. I found the end of T3 much more satisfying and believable as to the leadership development of John Connor. When he and Kate Brewster go into that bunker, and when he picks up that microphone to respond to a desperate call from another base, that is when he starts to become the legend that he is destined to be.



Well, he is only 15 on the show. I work with teenagers, and don't know many in possesion of a great deal of wisdom, or world-saving leadership skills.

Remember, the John in T3 was a decade older.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:26 AM

I don't expect John to be a bona fide leader yet. Trained from an early age, yes, and that is critical. But when he is forged as a leader will likely be when hard circumstances demand him to take the lead. Plus, now his mommy is still around, so he doesmn't need to grow up right away.

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Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:36 AM

Riverlove, the episodes usually do flow together. I heard that Fox asked the producers to do several standalone episodes so that new viewers wouldn't get lost in the existing storylines, which are fairly complex.

It's a fantastic series. Of course Summer Glau rocks in her role. The producers also put a lot of "easter eggs" in each episode, and then explain them later on the producers blog. It's very interactive.

I agree that John Connors doesn't yet possess the leadership skills he needs to save mankind. It's definitely on purpose so that the show can highlight Sarah Connor's efforts to protect her son and possibly change his fate. If the series gets a third season pick-up, I expect to see John Connor begin to develop the requisite leadership abilities.

John turned 16 at the beginning of season 2. BTW, if you want to see Summer Glau acting on display, watch "Alison From Palmdale". Summer plays 3 different roles: Cameron, Allison, and Alison. It's amazing! I understand that the crew gave her a standing ovation at some point during the shoot.

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Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:39 AM



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Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by somaholiday:
Ok, so now I've seen all of season 2 so far (except the one that came out today, its not on hulu yet)... I will say this, I like the show ALOT better now than I did when I started watching it. Cameron is still the best character in my opinion, but some other people have really picked up the pace (Derek is my second favorite character, although that's nothing new)... the one complaint I have with season 2 is that I hate Riley, I think she was a terrible addition to the show... although this is more of a personal thing, I don't think her acting is particularly bad or anything.

Agreed on all points. I don't particularly like Riley, but I like the plot point she presents. I like that it may reveal more about Cameron, and I'm looking forward to where they're going with the Riley and Jesse subplot.

I liked this week's episode, though it was a bit difficult to follow at some points. Summer had some great lines -- I won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it yet (it should be up on Hulu now though), but there's a part when she's sitting in the passenger seat of a car, and her line is cut in half by someone else talking. Her line made me giggle. Being able to have lines like that, while keeping everyone in character, moving the plot forward, and still having action... well it seems like quite a feat, and they're pulling it off well this season, I think.

~CK

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Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by severus:
Riverlove, the episodes usually do flow together. I heard that Fox asked the producers to do several standalone episodes so that new viewers wouldn't get lost in the existing storylines, which are fairly complex.

John turned 16 at the beginning of season 2. BTW, if you want to see Summer Glau acting on display, watch "Alison From Palmdale". Summer plays 3 different roles: Cameron, Allison, and Alison. It's amazing! I understand that the crew gave her a standing ovation at some point during the shoot.


I appreciate the information. I like the show very much, and I have not missed one episode. At first I watched it solely for Summer, but now I watch it because it's really good. Summer's performances over the last few episodes have been simply amazing. This Monday is the last show of this "mini-season". I hope it returns and finds an audience on Friday nights.

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Friday, December 12, 2008 5:57 AM

I'm still stuck on "I call 9mm" - haven't heard one I like better yet.

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:48 AM

I think the part with the swat in the pool and Johnny Cash playing in the background was one of the best scenes of the show. And I like Lena Headey in the role very much, But I agree about the Summer acting more human in episode 1. I thought it was weird!!

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