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U.S. Civil War

POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
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Monday, December 1, 2008 6:23 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27989275/?omg

OMG.

20,0000 troops. Deployed in the US to quell "civil unrest".

Do we have enough militia to fight that?

HOW do we fight that?

When do we START fighting that?





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Monday, December 1, 2008 6:28 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
When do we START fighting that?


Wait for a nuclear bomb to go off (or other major disaster), then use your gun to kill the emergency responders (since thats who these troops are), then complain about the failure of the government to plan and execute disaster relief at the national level, then vote for the nearest Democrat.

H

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Monday, December 1, 2008 6:34 PM

Emergency Responders? Are you fucking kidding me? Is that what you really think?

Well then I shouldnt be surprised the next time Im in an accident, and the EMTs show up with M16s and the ambulance is a tank.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

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Monday, December 1, 2008 7:03 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
When do we START fighting that?


Wait for a nuclear bomb to go off (or other major disaster), then use your gun to kill the emergency responders (since thats who these troops are), then complain about the failure of the government to plan and execute disaster relief at the national level, then vote for the nearest Democrat.

H



Or bury your head in the sand (or up Bush's ass), keep telling yourself that all is well and those troops kicking down your door are doing it for your own protection, and if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, and then go vote for the nearest Republican, because as they'll be quick to tell you, it's not fascism when THEY do it!

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Monday, December 1, 2008 7:19 PM

So...these guys are trained to kill people and break stuff. Exactly what use is that skill set in a situation where that's pretty much already happened? Better to 'deploy' 20,000 paramedics. But I guess EMTs don't look as good in jackboots.

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Monday, December 1, 2008 7:30 PM

Ok, so what can we do? Does anyone have a plan on how to deal with this if it comes to civil war?

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Monday, December 1, 2008 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by Eric:
So...these guys are trained to kill people and break stuff. Exactly what use is that skill set in a situation where that's pretty much already happened? Better to 'deploy' 20,000 paramedics. But I guess EMTs don't look as good in jackboots.


They are building three Brigade sized emergency response units able to provide security, support, logistics, medical care, etc to state and local first responders.

This is in response to Katrina, you remember Katrina. Imagine if we'd have been able to airlift 5,000 medical, logistical, and security troops to the Superdome that first day instead of waiting days for the local and state authorities to fail and then more days to move federal aid by ground (after putting a General in charge to kick everyone in the ass).

At the time I, along with some other folks, figured out that if we can deploy a Brigade of combat troops anywhere in the world in just a few hours...why not a Federal "Rapid Emergency Force" anywhere in the country in that same amount of time. Such an effort would have to be military, although I thought the Coast Guard would have been a better parent organization (since their mission bridges military and civil spheres).

So the folks at Homeland Security say hey, lets put thise all on paper and think about it for a few years and...here we are.

So on the one hand folks are crying cause we don't have what we need to help people when there is a big ass disaster and then its folks like you crying cause they are trying to put together what we need to help folks in case there is a big assed disaster. Make up your mind.

I note for the record that far more then 20,000 US troops are presently stationed in the United States. Heck, there are over 20,000 US troops stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina (and if thats sets you quivering...don't think about Texas).

I guess you can get all weepy at the thought of folks driving around in Humvees with big red crosses on the side...please don't think to hard about all those fellas in Texas with M1A1 Main Battle Tanks and big scary black horse heads on their shoulder patches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_(United_States)

Maybe you girls should change your panties or try growing a pair.

H

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Monday, December 1, 2008 8:06 PM

Didnt give a fuck about Katrina. Still don't. That was an ugly cow thats been milked enough.

Btw, what was one of the first things that these jackboots did when they started to "gain control"? Took the guns.

Yeah, smart.

Had I been there? No way in hell I would have allowed myself or my family to be bussed into the shark tank with the rest of the savages.

Nor would I have let them take my guns.

And you are contradicting yourself. If there were all these troops here in country, (like Texas), then where the fuck were they?

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Monday, December 1, 2008 8:18 PM

You're right, we have tens of thousands of troops stationed throughout the US, what are these additional 20k needed for?

Also, If I recall, the state in which the disaster occurs still has to request federal help, so hem-hawing at the state level will still slow reponse time.

If it is inevitable that we will see the development of a Domestic Reaction Force (or whatever catchy name they come up with), I want to see VERY strict rules as to when this force can or cannot be deployed. Upon deployment, I want to see VERY strict rules regarding the types of duties these folks can and cannot perform, and VERY VERY strict ROEs for "security" personnel. If these guys are going to be put in a law enforcemetn scenario, I want them to have training in law enforcement, with emphasis on Civil Rights.

My point is: 20,000 medics rolling down the road in deuce and a halfs full of MRE's and water, I'm cautiously OK with. 20,000 combat troops rolling down the road in gun trucks, not so much. Disaster relief, yes. Martial law, hell no.

Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.

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Monday, December 1, 2008 8:23 PM

Fucking right.

Have them roll down the road without their m16s...just MREs, I can MAYBE deal with.

Otherwise, its an invasion force, put forth by an unConstitutional government. Which makes it an invading army. Which, unfortunatly, makes it my enemy.

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