Official Map of the 'Verse at QMX
POSTED BY: micjwelch
UPDATED: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:17
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Okay, so I think this might make you even happier: There is an extensive white paper on the scientific background of the Verse that one of our researchers prepared so that the designer could make sure the graphics were as accurate as possible. We're prepping it for eventual release and I think it'll answer a lot of your questions. However, we probably won't be able to release it for at least a few more weeks.
Meanwhile, here's what it has to say about the stellar classes of the five primaries:
White Sun – Class A0
Georgia – Class G0
Red Sun – Class G5
Kalidasa – Class F5
Blue Sun – Class F0
What do you think?
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Originally posted by QMxAndy:
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Okay, so I think this might make you even happier: There is an extensive white paper on the scientific background of the Verse that one of our researchers prepared so that the designer could make sure the graphics were as accurate as possible. We're prepping it for eventual release and I think it'll answer a lot of your questions. However, we probably won't be able to release it for at least a few more weeks.
Meanwhile, here's what it has to say about the stellar classes of the five primaries:
White Sun – Class A0
Georgia – Class G0
Red Sun – Class G5
Kalidasa – Class F5
Blue Sun – Class F0
What do you think?
Although the instability made me uneasy, I had assumed that a civilization that traveled across space for generations and could arrive in the new verse, they could conjure the path of each body and predict collision prior to the actual occurrance, thus negating the problem we think it was.
When I mentioned a book about this subject, I was imagining something like a Visual Companion to this verse map, but I didn't say that. Like details about which body was referenced in the story lines, specifically or obliquely - which planet was KayLee from, and Bester was dropped off on? which was Wash from? Which was near the 3 moon alingment in the U-Day scene of Train Job? Was it Ezra, or just near Ezra?
Stuff like that. more goodiness for us to devour.
If the details of travel speed, including that formula using AU which escapes me now, would also be cool. Travel times from one location to another, including which times of year, which arcs of orbit, like when (Serenity script) River says "IF WE LEAVE NOW AT FULL BURN, will get (from Miranda) to Mr Universe's place in 4 hours" suggesting the changing orbits would change the travel distance.
Thanks a bunch. besides internet money, is there a phone number we can place real orders on?
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Originally posted by QMxAndy:
Meanwhile, here's what it has to say about the stellar classes of the five primaries:
White Sun – Class A0
Georgia – Class G0
Red Sun – Class G5
Kalidasa – Class F5
Blue Sun – Class F0
What do you think?
Let me say that I'm glad your group obviously did your homework on stellar classification.
For those of you reading this who don't know what star classes are, the letter refers to a stellar size class and the number is a value of luminosity. Stars range from largest to smallest in the order of O,B,A,F,G,K,M Here is an awsome wiki article with a perfect scale model pic of spectral comparisions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification
O stars are huge, hot, and die quick violent deaths in supernova. They would irratiate everything around them. I don't see one in the 'verse system. This is a good thing. These stars are Blue. They are also very rare, only 1 star in 3 million is an O in the milky way. These are the kinds of stars that create black holes when they die.
M stars are less hot but will still irradiate most stuff around them. They live longer but still die violently. Again, not in the 'verse system...a good thing. M stars are Blue-White and create neutron stars after they die.
A stars are much smaller than the O's and M's. You can see that in the wiki article. Current theory is that a habitable planet could be maintained around an 'A' star if there was a form of radiation shielding. 'A' stars are white
F,G,&K stars are the kinds that terrestrials are theorized to orbit. Our sun is a G. 15% of all stars in the galaxy fall into this range, and several are visible in the night sky. F stars are yellow-white, G's are yellow, and K's are orange.
M stars are small and cold. We refer to them as red dwarfs. Red dwarfs are very very common in the galaxy, almost 80% of all stars. They tend to wind up in binary and trinary systems as a function of their weak gravity and tendancy to get caught by something else during protostar formation. Theory holds that Jupiter is a failed red dwarf star. Had Jupiter acclumulated 4 times more mass during it's formation, fusion would have ignited and we'd be living in a binary system. This is what the aliens in 2010 did to Jupiter, per Arthur C Clarke. Someone mentioned that above.
My main issues yesterday were in noting that there was a blue star in the system. Knowing what I do about stars, I immediately calculated a titanic fusion monster that would yank most planets into deaths and irradiate the others. Kepler's laws demand that the largest body of the 'Verse be in the "Center". In this case, that would be the White sun. A Blue star elsewhere would be larger, per spectral classifications. Blue-white and blue stars are HUGE. Their gravitions are much much larger than a star like white sun. Their overwhelming power would yank small planets around like debris in a hurricane. When I noted "over millions of years" in a previous post I was refering to the simple fact that any star system in the milky way is far older than our feeble lifetimes. When humanity in the firefly cannon discovered this star system, there would have been nothing there to land on had it been a blue supergiant locked in a tug with an A white star, with 3 other smaller bodies moving around too. Planets would long ago have been tugged and yanked into elipses by the competing forces of the blue and white suns ultimately flinging bodies into any of the other 3 stars. There might have been a smattering of objects left in close, hot orbits to any of the 5 stars, but it'd be a pipe dream to have 200+ worlds.
That was the core of my analysis.
However, if the blue sun became yellow....or orange...things change. Now there is a star that won't overpower the orbital paths of planets around other stars and things work better. I note that the stellar class of blue sun is F0, making it really a yellow-white. Why not change it to exactly that? I also thought you could make this map a
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Psst. I was just able to order the map off the website. I used the promo code that was in the QMX Insider email and got a discount. Make sure if you want the Rolled (no creases) that you check that box because the default is folded.
http://store.quantummechanix.com/Complete-and-Official-Map-of-the-Vers
e_p_1-54.html
Whoo-hoo!
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
besides internet money, is there a phone number we can place real orders on?
jewelstaitefan,
Email one of the emails on http://www.quantummechanix.com/about.html
and ask them if they will take a phone order or if they have a vendor that will take a phone order.
Also a local comic book store might be able to order it for you.
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I got a shiny email.
I am told phone orders can be taken by Jessica at QMX at the following numbers:
610-489-7690 and 866-623-0055
It seems weekdays are the timeframe.
Thanks for the address Anon-one.
I hope she doesn't mind my posting the numbers.
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OK, let's sum it up:
The Verse is a star cluster of five distinct star systems composed of seven protostars, seven gas giants, and 215 terraformed planets and moons. The five stars are White Sun (Class A0), Red Sun (Class G5), Blue Sun (Class F0), Georgia (Class G0), and Kalidasa (Class F5). The cluster was formed when the four lower gravity stars came within the gravitational influence of the stronger White Sun and formed a rudimentary orbital system where the star systems operate similar to planets orbiting a single star. The Verse is inherently unstable and it is theorized that it will break apart again in 25,000 to 50,000 years or so.
The planet Hera (along with Shadow and Sturges) orbits the protostar Murphy in the Georgia system. Located on the inner edge of The Border, it is an ideal jumping-off point for travelers going to The Core or out to The Rim. In combination with Persephone – which orbits a stellated gas giant on the outer edge of The Core – Hera/Persephone form a kind of "airlock" between The Core and the rest of the Verse, making it a target of great strategic importance. That's why Hera was so important that the Independent Faction's loss of a single battle there ended the war decisively.
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I got my map, and it's amazing! For those that want an online reference based on this map, I have posted it here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=21340&nid=30023
It's not as beautiful as the real thing, of course, but I wanted something on my computer screen for my Serenity RPG.
(a.k.a. wydraz)
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Wow, thanks for the contribution Greenfaerie!
I checked out your site by the way. It's great.
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hey guys, first time posting (lurking for a while tho)
I've been thinking about this map since it was announced. Does it have the length of the years for each planet? If it does then it could be possible to build some sort of navigation system. You'd need to map each of the planet's orbits into some computer database, so that at a given time you would know each of the planets was. It's then case of working out a route and the time taken to get there - a pretty useful program (especially for RPGers, if you like that sort of thing). I have no idea about how to go about doing that sort of thing tho, plus it sounds like a massive job.
Ali
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Thanks for posting this map! and the link, using it the BDM makes little sense though, Serenity can't go from Lilac (in the Blue Sun System) to Beaumonde (in the Yellow colored system) and back to Haven (in the Blue Sun System) and then be a few hours out from Inara, I'm assuming she is on a moon in the Blue Sun System (in TLB Mal describes the Training House location as a crap ass part of space he can't find any work in) and then on to Haven, Miranda, and so forth. Now granted it has been a while since I took Astronomy 101, but that's a lot of System hopping for one little spacecraft that doesn't have light speed capabilities and even if it did it would take longer than a week or two to travel these great distances.
Can anyone explain this?
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