Caleb vs. Hamilton

POSTED BY: ShadowVessel
UPDATED: Monday, June 7, 2004 06:11
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SHADOWVESSEL

Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:47 PM

Actually, it's never said that The First created all other evil, just that it was the first evil on the block.

(Gorramn Double Post)
"I'll be in my bunk."

QUICKSAND

Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:32 PM

Apples and Oranges, my friend.

A superpower is only as powerful as their army, and your army can't fight if they're in a Love-induced haze.

Or, in Illyria's case, all dead.

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SHADOWVESSEL

Sunday, May 23, 2004 5:17 AM

Wow, Quick'. You're as prominent as your name implies. The first half, anyway. You've managed to put yet another dilema at ease.

Oh, and Vampire$ also had an ensemble. Jack Crow was THE main character, much like Mal, but in the scope of the overall story the team were all leading characters, much like the crew of Serenity. I could say more on this, but I don't want to ruin it for you if you haven't read it and are planning to read it. I will say this: Aw, forget it, I don't want to ruin it for you.

(Gorramn Double Post)
"I'll be in my bunk."

QUICKSAND

Sunday, May 23, 2004 5:51 AM

I'm glad to hear the book spent some time on Other Characters Who Weren't Jack Or The Scary Vampire. There is always potential for a great story in the characters who AREN'T the hero, so props to Steakley for knowing this, and points deducted from John Carpenter for bein' a big dummy.

Carpenter is past his prime, anyway. We're still talking about Halloween and Escape from New York TODAY, and still will be in 20 years, but I forgot about Vampires 20 minutes after I saw it, and I don't think there's any evidence 'Ghosts of Mars' ever existed. How does this man still get work?

Oh, and thanks for the compliments. It's nice to meet someone else here who knows how to separate paragraphs.

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SHADOWVESSEL

Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:08 AM

The Ghosts of what? Yeah, I know what you mean. Even Escape from LA was just a cheesy remake of the original. The last movie Carpenter made that I thought was cool was Memoirs of an Invisible Man. It just took the whole invisible man thing to a new level for me. Not that I deem it legendary or anything, it just brushed the dust off an otherwise non-exilerating mythos. And Sam Neil's just freakin' cool. Oh! And since we're on books and invisible men... another great book is Fade. It takes the whole invisible man thing to a whole new plane of existence! I can't remember who wrote it, though, because I haven't seen it again since I read it in the school library eleven years ago. Guess I'm a guy who's just got a thing for books that never quite get off the ground.

I went back and read you're "Genius Serenity" Blog. I, too, thought Transformers: The Movie was a true cinematic jump from TV. At the time, like you, I was like 12 or 13 so it kinda blew me away and made me cringe. Not that I was unused to seeing that kind of violence on TV, my dad had us watching Dirty Harry and The Thing (another legendary Carpenter shout out) while I was still in elementary school, but because it was freakin' Transformers! Now I look back and see that for someone to give the order to kill off most of the leading characters, including Optimus freakin' Prime, took balls that clank. Hopefully, Firefly will make the same (only without all the killing of characters) jump to Serenity.

Oh yeah... eewww! Dude, you kissed a dude!

(Gorramn Double Post)
"I'll be in my bunk."

QUICKSAND

Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:18 AM

You sure do have that double-posting problem a lot. Perhaps you should see a doctor?

I've got my own theories as to What Happens Next with the 'Serenity' crew, but if I turn out to be wrong, I will have created a really, really evil rumor for no good reason. So I'm just gonna hang back and see what happens.

And Trust Joss.

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HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SouthernMerc:
Did anyone but me notice that Joss answered the question put forth during Fred's death, that of "Who would win, cavemen or astronauts?" With WR&H being the astronauts and Illyria being the cavemen, it's pretty clear that the cavemen get the spanking. Illyria only did well when she started using the plan Angel put forth, coupling her incredible strength with Angel's intelligence.

Any takers for this off topic bit?

Jayne: "See, Vera? You get dressed up, you get taken someplace fun!"

nice theory, but it won't work because remember the Astronauts can't have weapons, and i don't see the Senior partners getting up and doing their own dirty work so technically Hamilton was a weapon...no hamilton...no beating the caveman/illyria.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

SOUTHERNMERC

Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:16 PM

Doesn't say the astronauts can't have weapons, they meant no MODERN weapons. Anything can be a weapon, and it doesn't matter if the cavemen are stronger, strength alone doesn't win battles for you. For some reason everyone has this image of super-strong brute in their minds about "cavemen." They weren't THAT much stronger than modern man, and they certainly weren't healthier. And they used tools, the same as modern humans. They just didn't have advanced tools or knowledge.

Jasmine vs. the First, all and all, an ugly fight.

Jayne: "See, Vera? You get dressed up, you get taken someplace fun!"

TOMTBA2004

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:14 AM

(if you look at the history) Hamiliton broke his neck and Caleb got split in two. If you go by points (Boxing style) Caleb won. Hamilton killed one employee,took out illyria and her keeper. beat up on angle and conner a bit. Caleb took out quite a few potentials and zander's eye, took on two slayers( Hurt them both pretty badly)they both got taken out by either angle or buffy having a weapon of some sort. And ya the amulet was sent by wolf ram and heart it wasn't made by them. and that was for the vamps not caleb. it is a tough question. i think only joss could answer it. It would be a good Brawl. Heres a new question, Buffy Vs. Hamilton and Angel vs. Caleb?

" lets go to work"

SHADOWVESSEL

Friday, May 28, 2004 3:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Quicksand:
Apples and Oranges, my friend.

A superpower is only as powerful as their army, and your army can't fight if they're in a Love-induced haze.

Or, in Illyria's case, all dead.

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Now that I've finished the video and it's out(shameless plug), my brain's been freed up for the pursuit of more trivial dillemas at work.

I got to thinking... even in a love-induced haze a "launch" button can be pushed. We must think outside of the box here. The entire planet's population would have been under Jasmine's control. The media connected ones, anyway. That includes the President and all his military. Which, I believe, in turn would've ended with Sunnydale in nuclear winter.

Bwah!

(Gorramn Double Post)

"I'll be in my bunk."

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