Civics quiz
POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 06:30
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
the Preamble to the constitution
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare..."
-James Kirk, to a dense Yang, Omega Glory
The pop-culture child Chrisisall
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Upon thinking back, we were not required to list the charges against King George in the Decelaration, those being to numerous and difficult for a 6th grader to memorize. But we did go through:
-The Natural Laws of the people to pronounce a decelatarion "When in the course...."
-The Preamble "We hold these truths..."
-(We skiped the section of charges)
-The final resulotion ending with the famous pledge of "Our lives, or fortunes, and our sacred honor"
Do not fear me. Our's is a peaceful race and we must live in harmony.
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Wrong on that. I opened the thread, saw the link, read the responses, went there, took it, scored 93%, only missed 2 of 33. I know this s**t.
That is my point, poorly made perhaps: some of the questions were good for citizens to know, others seemed so obscure it's more of a lark that someone would actually know or recall the answers, or that it could be suggested that they are important to know. A Basic Test?
Another example:
11) What impact did the Anti-Federalists have on the United States Constitution?
A. their arguments helped lead to the adoption of the Bill of Rights
B. their arguments helped lead to the abolition of the slave trade
C. their influence ensured that the federal government would maintain a standing army
D. their influence ensured that the federal government would have the power to tax.
I don't recall "Anti-Federalists" being discussed in any class I ever took, and that includes 6 years of college
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I don't recall "Anti-Federalists" being discussed in any class I ever took, and that includes 6 years of college
Not to make you look silly here, but you astonished me with your statement. I'd simply refer you to paragraph 3 of the wiki article of the bill of rights, since I have no high school textbook to hand you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
"Madison proposed the Bill of Rights while ideological conflict between Federalists and anti-Federalists, dating from the 1787 Philadelphia Convention, threatened the overall ratification of the new national Constitution. It largely responded to the Constitution's influential opponents, including prominent Founding Fathers, who argued that the Constitution should not be ratified because it failed to protect the basic principles of human liberty."
Federalists: Centralized power based upon a belief that the people are rarely capibable of judging what is right.
Anti-Federalists: Individual power based upon the belief that the people know best what is important to them.
Notable Federalists: John Adams and Alexander Hamilton
Notable Anti-Federalists: Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry
Sit at my feet and I shall give you the crash course in Libertarianism 101. Then you can stop voting Blue or Red.
Do not fear me. Our's is a peaceful race and we must live in harmony.
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:Quote:
Another example:
11) What impact did the Anti-Federalists have on the United States Constitution?
A. their arguments helped lead to the adoption of the Bill of Rights
B. their arguments helped lead to the abolition of the slave trade
C. their influence ensured that the federal government would maintain a standing army
D. their influence ensured that the federal government would have the power to tax.
I don't recall "Anti-Federalists" being discussed in any class I ever took, and that includes 6 years of college
This one was a lucky ( or educated ) guess on my part. I don't remember hearing " anti-Federalist" any time in my schooling, but C and D were obviously logically incorrect- ensuring an army and taxes are obviously Federalist policies, anti-Feds would have surely opposed those Federal powers. I misread the slavery choice-- I skipped a couple of words and got " led to slavery", which is of course wrong. Slavery pre-existed the Revolution, and certainly the Constitution. And abolition would have had to have been a national issue, hence a Federalist concern. Which left the Bill of Rights, which were a set of limits on government power and a critical matter of great debate and concern at the time of the Constitutional Convention. The version of the history I was taught was that the Constitution would not have been adopted if the Bil of Rights had not been included.
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I don't recall "Anti-Federalists" being discussed in any class I ever took, and that includes 6 years of college
Not surprising, Pizmo.
It was this very information that originally sparked my interest in history, and revealed in full awesome glory just how MANY lies were being told to me in our heavily propagandised "History" classes.
The impression we were given, quite deliberately, was that The Federalist Papers were merely an explaination to the people as our wise founders handed it down to us - not a single, solitary mention of opposition to it, not even a hint that there was any.
And perusing it in my used, bought at a yard sale, Encylopedia Brittanica collection, I was astounded at the level of deception going on.
And I kinda went berserk - Not only have I been a muckraker and history buff since that very day, I am very staunchly Anti-Federalist in nature, cause you see, I READ their papers too...
And frankly they made more sense - especially now that hindsight has proven them right beyond their wildest horror in almost every single case.
It's heavy reading, but you CAN find both the Federalist, and Anti-Federalist papers, online.
I too had never even heard of them until discovery outside our so-called "education" system, and haven't had much respect for it ever since.
And it *did* get discussed in my class, but me, in flaming row after flaming row with the history teacher, involving much of the class - in retrospect I think the only reason he never kicked me out was that the average grades of us passionate little fireballs skyrocketed cause we were taking an actual *interest*, even if it was mostly for the purpose of pillorying the pathetic propaganda he was required to peddle.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Missed two of the slanted ones.
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Let's party like its 1929.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Missed two of the slanted ones.
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Let's party like its 1929.
I didn't notice any of them being italicized.
(wink).
Couldn't resist.
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Sit at my feet and I shall give you the crash course in Libertarianism 101.
I think if you'd said that to someone else I'd still be creeped out by it.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Not surprising, Pizmo.
It was this very information that originally sparked my interest in history, and revealed in full awesome glory just how MANY lies were being told to me in our heavily propagandised "History" classes.
That's the trouble: who do you believe?
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