Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 19:30
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No one is saying same sex partners can't join to make a home, but they can't have kids naturally, and their union should not be called a 'marriage'.
And here you are again, back at the "if you can't have children naturally, you don't deserve to be married or call it a marriage" riff. I thought you explained, yelled, shouted, wheedled, and cavilled (IN ALL CAPS, NO LESS - Would you like me to quote it back to you?) about how this is NOT what you meant. And yet, here you are, spewing it again.
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Being one of those infertile heteros...
Right about now there's some folk in this thread I'd really like to hit with a brick.
-F
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Being one of those infertile heteros...
Right about now there's some folk in this thread I'd really like to hit with a brick.
-F
Oh my goodness. I guess it was me bringing the subject up. I apologize if I was being insensitive or thoughtless. I didn't think I was but if I offended you, I am sorry.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Right about now there's some folk in this thread I'd really like to hit with a brick.
On that note...Happy Thankgiving. I'm going on vacation for the next week.
Imagine, a whole week of me not trashing the Bill of Rights or jailing the innocent.
I note for the record that I'm heading to Vegas for a few days to get away from the snowstorm we've had in NE Ohio and celebrate global warming, gambling, drinking, and the free speech rights of exotic dancers (er...I mean check out the Browns game in the sportbar with some buddies while my hot girlfriend hangs out by the pool).
H
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Quote:AURaptor: If you swim towards the ship I assure you that no harm will come to you...I doubt you'll get such an offer from the Eels.......
Originally posted by chrisisall:
AURaptor: friendless, brainless, helpless, hopeless! Do you want me to send you back to where you were? Unemployed in Greenland!
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Prop 8 is just a way for heteros who don't like gays to express that without having to say it out loud individually. The rest is just smoke and misdirection and blah blah. If they felt differently there would be no need for the conversation.
Yep. No matter how much they protest, this is the truth.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:Quote:Of course nobody is saying that because it's unconstitutional. As much as you'd like to tell gays what they're doing is wrong, you're not powerful enough and you can't.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one is saying same sex partners can't join to make a home
What gays are doing is clearly right, for them. It'd be wrong for those who weren't gay, I suppose, but that's hardly the issue now, is it ?
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Originally posted by AURaptor: but they can't have kids naturally, and their union should not be called a 'marriage'.
Fine...you need to make sure fertility tests are part of the marriage license process. If one parent fails, no license for them, untill they undergo fertility treatment and things change.
After gay marriage is legalized, then that kind of draconian Conservative Evangelical inspired inquisition crap will matter as much as Bush Republicans...not at all.
No I don't, because, as I've stated mulltiple times now, the only way children are born is if a man and woman have sex. It's how nature is set up, and yes, it IS anectotal for the very few ( I'm not blindly accepting the 15 % figure to be whole sale fact ) couples who can't have kids. By nature, it takes both sexes for humans to reproduce. I fail to see a reason to redefine marriage after 1000's of yrs simply to pacify a noisy , very small minority. This has nothing to do w/ 'rights', but more to do about indoctrination , and I for one am never going to yield this simple, straight forward ( damn bad pun, my bad ) matter. There's no intent to dehumanize, suppress, deny or any of the hair brained nonsenes that's being thrown around by extreme activist over this issue.
Only a man and woman can marry. End of discussion.
p.s. ....and Mal, I'd take it as a kindness if, when debating issues in the future, you refrain from trying to tell your opposition what THEY think, simply because it fits into your preconceived template which enables you to vilify those who don't agree with you or see things differently.
Thank you
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"This has nothing to do w/ 'rights', but more to do about indoctrination"
Hello,
I agree that it has to do with indoctrination, and not rights.
Certain people have been indoctrinated to believe that marriage should only exist between heterosexuals.
Certain people have been indoctrinated to resist this change as a threat to their values.
Certain people have been indoctrinated to blind themselves to inequity in order to resist change.
If this had to do with rights, there'd be no discussion. People would say, "They want to get married? So what? No skin off my nose."
But this isn't about rights. It's about indoctrination, and those that resist gay marriage have been wholly indoctrinated.
As an aside, sterile people are no more anecdotal than fertile people. Both can be medically proven, and thus exist factually. Marriage does not involve any biological imparative to reproduce. It is a financial and social construct. It has evolved over thousands of years, and we should continue to allow it to evolve.
Once again, I am so disgusted with this whole issue, I wish that government would remove all marriage legislation altogether from the books. If two (or more) adults can't get married when they want to, then the legal framework of this institution is intrinsically flawed. Since the majority don't want to fix the law's flaws, they should be deprived of its benefits.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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AgentR, wasn't you I found offensive, it was the idea that infertile couples shouldn't marry in light of an almost decades long relationship (basically paperless marriage) blowing up in my face for *exactly* that reason.
And just the thought of Rappy's usual stone-blind, pig-ignorant philistine barbarism makes me ponder if that brick wouldn't better be served unto him as an enema rather than upside the head.
Course, one would have to move his HEAD out of the way first - given where it usually is, and thus I suppose you could do both in a single shot.
-Frem
PS, Yes Rappy, that is a deliberate and intentional insult directed soley at you, and given you're recent tenous grasp on reality, I just wanna make triple damn sure you KNOW that.
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Quote:Thank you for the kindly worded post AURaptor.
Originally posted by AURaptor: Only a man and woman can marry. End of disucssion.
p.s. ....and Mal, I'd take it as a kindness if, when debating issues in the future, you refrain from trying to tell your opposition what THEY think, simply because it fits into your preconceived template which enables you to vilify those who don't agree with you or see things differently.
Thank you
Unfortunatly due to circumstances beyond my control, which occured after your end of the discussion, as seen underlined above, I am unable to discuss a discussion that already has a great end. I'm attracted your end AURaptor. Not many fellas have ends like yours!
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