Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 19:30
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
In many peoples minds...
Gays marrying is the equivilant of a brother and sister getting married, or little Johnny "marrying" the family dog.
I doubt that idea is going to change any time soon.
Yes, and in many peoples' minds, Barack Obama is a Muslim. The fact that many, many people are simpering fucking morons doesn't make their idiotic views "right".
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Quote:See...you are the only one against gay marriage to come close to what the whole shabang is for gays. It's not getting married thats the issue...it's people you don't know, or like, telling them what they can, and cannot do. Do you feel good running down your list of things they can and cannot do like you were some concentration camp guard?
Originally posted by Hero:
I support same sex couples rights to have relationships, sex, children, etc. I do not support the redefinition of marriage on either political or legal grounds.
Being homosexual isn't illegal. Being heterosexual isn't illegal.
Anti gay marriage folks can't say "it's because God doesn't like it", and they can't say "picturing gay people doing it makes me uncomfortable"
So they have found this "institution of marriage" bit, and have lawyers argue it and come up with a million analogies supporting how homosexuals are different from heterosexuals.
They're not different because of how they have sex, they're different because heterosexuals have to look at them walking the streets and feel uncomfotable explaining it to thier kids...who would'nt care if they knew anyway.
This whole mess begins and ends inside the heads of anti gay marriage people hanging on to the trailing end of sociological evolution.
Lawyers were able to get OJ off. Lawyers should never be burdoned to tell us right from wrong, it's not thier job. Just wether or not they won. And what kind of shady religion has created so many enemies that they need a gaggle of lawyers? Mormons. Tax evasion and bigotry. Nice religion.
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"Gays cannot "marry" as defined by any religious instituition."
Not true - there are religious institutions that perform gay marriages.
"Polygamy, pediophilia, bestiality ect...you can make the same arguments for them that are being made for gay marriage."
Not particularly. Voluntary choice is missing from pedophilia and bestiality. It MAY be missing from polygamy if the adult has been brought up knowing only one way of life. As for incest, there may be genetic reasons to not allow it, but as far as I now there hasn't been any studies on that specifically; though there have been studies on very small, closed communities like the Amish that have high prevalence of genetic diseases.
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Polygamy, pediophilia, bestiality ect...you can make the same arguments for them that are being made for gay marriage.
Except that you can't. Polygamy, maybe, but the others, not so much. A marriage requires two consenting adult humans.
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Still waiting for a response here, Hero....
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Yet they oppose gay marriage. The Lord must think incest is okee dokee.
Actually, their bible is lousy with incest. Hell, if you go by the "literal word", there absolutely HAD to be incest. That's why rednecks are okay with it.
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(Just an aside-rant: So why is it, I wonder, that people find it so easy to scrap the pork rules or ignore what Jesus says about wealth and keep a few vague mentions about certain sexual acts? In particular if those actrs are based on love? I find it so hypocritical, aaaaaaargh!)
Same reason they're totally willing to cherry-pick their beliefs, what they'll follow from the Old Testament and the New, and what they'll throw aside as "quaint". It's because, at the heart of it, all of them are hypocrites.
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Pretty much. The religion of Christ - one based on following his teachings - is extremely inconvenient.
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(Just an aside-rant: So why is it, I wonder, that people find it so easy to scrap the pork rules or ignore what Jesus says about wealth and keep a few vague mentions about certain sexual acts? In particular if those actrs are based on love? I find it so hypocritical, aaaaaaargh!)
Same reason they're totally willing to cherry-pick their beliefs, what they'll follow from the Old Testament and the New, and what they'll throw aside as "quaint". It's because, at the heart of it, all of them are hypocrites.
You see, I don't think they are, not... in a malicious sense and certainly not all of them. Many Christians are great people who do not freak me out but who it is a pleasure to know.
I'm sure there are those Christians who feel the discrepancy of messages that can go on there. Inclusion yet exclusion, the discarding of some rules over others, etc.
There has historically often been an oppressive element to Christianity, but at the same time there have always been reform movements. Adjustments within the faith have happened. They usually did when people used their minds to question both the text and their religious authority, how they matched up and how they corresponded with the realities of their lives.
I think Christianity is in as much cultural confusion as the rest of the planet. Fear is probably at the root of that as much as it is anywhere.
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" Many Christians are great people who do not freak me out but who it is a pleasure to know."
I have met 3 people in the RW and one one-line whose religion I thought enhanced and informed their being - they were awesome. The rest of the religious people I have met (and there are many in the US) have been narrow-minded, self-congratulatory rationalizers.
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