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Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 19:30
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:33 PM

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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
...slavery was lawful...inter racial marriage was unlawful...Women voting was unlawful...not letting the king screw your wife first on your wedding night was unlawful...

Yes Mal, but see, the laws of the past sometimes had flaws, we've moved into an era of perfection- all laws are good now, doncha know?

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:34 PM

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in the future...they'll make inspirational movies like Remember the Titans about the gay/human rights struggle, and control freaky christians will play the bigoted bad guys like the KKK used to in movies.
Sigh. What a great vision! I'll be looking forward to the day!

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Sigh. What a great vision! I'll be looking forward to the day!


I saw this movie titled Deep Impact a while back, in which Morgan Freeman played the Prez, and I thought, like, I might never live to see a REAL Prez of colour...so, we're sort of living in a great vision to some degree, IMO.

little positive interjection for what it's worthisall


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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:37 PM

But, Chris, did you ever notice that every single time they DO show a black president, there's something really horrible going on with the U.S.?

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
But, Chris, did you ever notice that every single time they DO show a black president, there's something really horrible going on with the U.S.?


Like now?

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:53 PM

Eeeeeeaaassssyyyy, hotshot - the dude's not even in office yet!

At least give him a CHANCE to destroy the country! Doesn't he deserve a chance?

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:01 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
But, Chris, did you ever notice that every single time they DO show a black president, there's something really horrible going on with the U.S.?

OMG Kwicko! There was the black President in "The 5th Element"...Ultimate evil had returned to bring permanent darkness to the Galaxy, or maybe even Universe!

Then asteroids!

BYW, I sat next to Morgan Freeman back in the 90's on a flight from Memphis to Chicago. His family got a row behind us and he was the odd man out. He eventualy figured out a very gracious way of telling me to shut up so he could read.


Trolls against McCain

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RUE
Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:23 PM

If slaves were allowed to own slaves one could argue that slavery is 'non-discriminatory'. That is essentially the argument that Hero is making, which is simply fallacious.

As for this ...
"... the word `marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word `spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.'."
... there is a gap in here which makes gay marriages possible by overly defining what is a marriage - it has to do with the husband and wife conditional placed on the definition. So the law in its text is faulty. Well, that's what happens when you become overly legalistic and throw too many words onto the pile. You need to use just enough words to get the job done, and then STOP.

Further, it IS possible to have laws which are unconstitutional and which can be nullified. So the fact that there is a law, no matter how badly written, isn't enough to say something is constitutional.

Finally, rights are only given to human beings. By denying full rights to gay people they are being defined as less than human.

One day - and I hope that it's in an Obama Supreme Court - this will come up for a court challenge.

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And I noticed that Rap, in his straining to draw equivalency between the one "man and one woman" statements and plural marriages and bestiality failed to mention anything about legal age of consent. Got something going there you care to share, Rap ?

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:28 PM

But wait-- here's a bit of good news for the haters! (Biblical, legal or flag-waving)

Even though you WILL eventually lose this battle, your children or grandchildren won't have to live in Tolerance-Land forever. Someday, they'll get to argue that marriage is only for Humans. Any (deviant) humans that (*shudder*) want to join with an alien will have to settle for a 'civil union'.

Of course by then, your sanctimonious little spawn will naturally included gay marriage in their definition (as long as it's humans, dammit!).

Because ultimately, that's what social conservatives do: rigorously defend traditions that their ancestors fought against, (and lost,) while vigorously fighting to prevent social progresses that their descendants will eventually, doggedly, defend.



--WhoDied


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Like any of that's enough
to fight the dark master.

...bator.


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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:47 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:

I oppose gay marriage on many grounds...legal, moral, political, ethical, survival (of the species).



Survival? Honestly? You seem like a smart fella, Hero. Do you really think that gays getting married endangers the species? The world is over-populated as is. How do a relatively small group of people marrying someone of the same sex endanger the species? Can you honestly say you think procreation will stop?

Seems to me, with the problems inherent to over-population, that having a bunch of people not have kids would be a good thing.

And if you really think it's such a threat, why aren't you speaking out against stright couples who marry, but choose not to have children?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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