KO on Prop 8
POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Friday, November 14, 2008 13:30
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Originally posted by rue:
So they have everything EXCEPT a few rights --- let's ignore those, shall we ? After all, almost as good is just as good in Rap world. Hey, just b/c you have to go to the back of the bus doesn't mean you can't ride it --- right ? You've got all the rights that count.
And Rap --- when did you stop being an a-religious independent and become a right-wing religious toadie ?
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Along with that roaring, on fire economy, those stockpiles of WMDs, the 95% of 'them' who don't pay taxes, the torture that wasn't that never happened except when it was by a few bad apples, the eavesdropping that never happened but was legal anyway, and the election of McCain --- you're wrong, to no one's surprise - yet again.
This has nothing to do w/ religion, Rue. And as for your little fantasy list, the economy was doing great for most of Bush's 2 terms, 'Slam Dunk' , so said Clinton CIA Director George Tenet, I'm more right than Obama, who'll raise taxes anyone who got a tax cut under Bush ( 40% of Americans have no income tax liability to the Fed Gov't ) blah...blah...blah... I'm far more accurate than you.
I'm right. Period.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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"You, nor the liberal ilk, can force churches to marry people. Separation of church and state remember?"
Speaking of 'ilk' - wow, anti-black AND anti-gay.
Churches would not be forced to marry gays. That's just a stupid claim (which you obviously believed, so what does that make you ?) to get people riled up.
Here's the REAL issue - what if a church WANTS to marry gays ? Where does the state get off saying they can't get married ?
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Does the state recognize baptisms ? Why should the state be forced to recognized same sex marriages? Have at it, for all I care. But it's not a marriage by any legal standing.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Churches, like ships' captains, are recognized by the state as authorities that perform legally binding marriages.
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"Speaking of 'ilk' - wow, anti-black AND anti-gay.."
Wow. I am neither of those things, and as much as you'd like to fit me into a little box like that, you cannot.
Too bad, Rue.
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Well, let's see --- you think racism can be ended by ending affirmative action and you think that gays shouldn't be able to get married.
I personally don't care what REASONS you may give for your hatreds. Whether you claim to be interested in the consitution or you talk about the natural inferiority of certain people it's all the same. The result is you want to deny real equality in favor of inequality.
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BTW - why is it you never thought to ask yourself why there were so many poor blacks in proportion as compared to whites ?
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
What riles people do go against it so determinedly?
Religion. Which, I'd say, should stay out of politics. This is why I've always taken issue with marriage being a religious institution. If people want to get married in a church, that's their choice, but the dictates of the religion shouldn't rule who can get married. That's not separation of church and state.
Everyone should be able to get married, or everyone should have domestic partnerships. Me, I would be fine with it all being domestic partnership, since marriage is a religious institution an' all. But, you know, marriage has also become a state institution, and it's a tradition, and everyone knows what it means already, that two people who are in love are joining their lives together. Also, it's shorter and easier to say, rolls off the tongue so to speak, and people tend to prefer that in their words and terms. So why not call it all marriage, then? Well, if the Church and their sheeple would stop screaming about it, we could right? Except that again brings up keeping religion out of law... I could just go on in that circle.
Bottom line, calling it something different but claiming it's the same thing is patently ridiculous. Calling it the same thing but saying it was a little different would also be ridiculous. Just let everyone have the same options.
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Originally posted by rue:
Churches, like ships' captains, are recognized by the state as authorities that perform legally binding marriages.
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And in CA, legally binding marriages are between 1 man and 1 woman.
So, we agree ! There's no problem!
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:Shall I re-post the inflation adjusted GDP, income distribution, and Federal Revenue figures again? Or will you please stop beating this dead horse?
And as for your little fantasy list, the economy was doing great for most of Bush's 2 terms
Anyone with one eye and two neurons to rub together could see that as the lower two-quintile incomes sank demand was bolstered by borrowing based on a housing bubble which was based on cheap interest rates. Had nothing to do with Bush, and was doomed to come crashing down like the house of cards that it was. I've been predicting this for about a year. My tagline isn't a joke. Get real.
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"And in CA, legally binding marriages are between 1 man and 1 woman."
And that is discrimination. Glad you see it my way.
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