KO on Prop 8
POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Friday, November 14, 2008 13:30
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One of his better ones:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/keith-olbermanns-prop-8-s_n_1
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What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy?
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The people have spoken, and that's not good enough? Looks like Gays are asking to be treated special.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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And so...now when people vote against something, if the special interest disagree...it can be overturned.
JUST. FUCKING. GREAT.
Welcome to the domestic tyranny that uses propoganda to brainwash the sheeple.
Time for the true patriots to water the tree of liberty.
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"The people have spoken, and that's not good enough? Looks like Gays are asking to be treated special (sic)."
So, if the majority of people voted to reinstitute slavery would you be OK with that ?
Obviously (and I can't believe I have to point out this obvious fact to you, but apparently I DO have to point out the obvious) there are Constitutional considerations when passing laws.
BTW, gays aren't looking to be 'treated special', they're looking to have exactly the same rights, privileges, limits and responsibilities as everyone else. That 'equal protection under the law' concept you seem to hold in such disdain.
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And yet once again, to no one's surprise, you're wrong.
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Originally posted by rue:
"The people have spoken, and that's not good enough? Looks like Gays are asking to be treated special (sic)."
So, if the majority of people voted to reinstitute slavery would you be OK with that ?
Obviously (and I can't believe I have to point this obvious fact to you, but apparently I DO have to point out the obvious) there are Constitutional considerations when passing laws.
BTW, gays aren't looking to be 'treated special', they're looking to have exactly the same rights, privileges, limits and responsibilities as everyone else. That 'equal protection under the law' concept you seem to hold in such disdain.
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And yet once again, to no one's surprise, you're wrong.
This ain't close to slavery, and as the #'s show, don't even try to sell that to the blacks either. They don't buy that claim that gays are the 21st century version of blacks and their struggle for REAL civil rights, at a rate of 70-80%.
Gays DO have exactly the same rights as anyone else. That point is moot. As of 2007, California affords domestic partnerships all of the same rights and responsibilities as marriages under state law (Cal. Fam. Code §297.5). Among these:
Making health care decisions for each other in certain circumstances
Hospital and jail visitation rights that were previously reserved for family members related by blood, adoption or marriage to the sick, injured or incarcerated person.
Access to family health insurance plans (Cal. Ins. Code §10121.7)
Spousal insurance policies (auto, life, homeowners etc..), this applies to all forms of insurance through the California Insurance Equality Act (Cal. Ins. Code §381.5)
Sick care and similar family leave
Stepparent adoption procedures
Presumption that both members of the partnership are the parents of a child born into the partnership
Suing for wrongful death of a domestic partner
Rights involving wills, intestate succession, conservatorships and trusts
The same property tax provisions otherwise available only to married couples (Cal. R&T Code §62p)
Access to some survivor pension benefits
Supervision of the Superior Court of California over dissolution and nullity proceedings
The obligation to file state tax returns as a married couple (260k) commencing with the 2007 tax year (Cal R&T Code §18521d)
The right for either partner to take the other partner's surname after registration
Community property rights and responsibilities previously only available to married spouses
The right to request partner support (alimony) upon dissolution of the partnership (divorce)
The same parental rights and responsibilities granted to and imposed upon spouses in a marriage
Not wrong, nor was I wrong before.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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"Gays DO have exactly the same rights as anyone else."
Except marriage, open adoption, fostering and a few additional of those small unimportant rights..
What you're saying is it's not exactly the same, but it's almost like ... You're advocating separate but equal, aren't you ?
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And once again, you're wrong.
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But why the need for separate but equal? If it's all the same, anyway. What riles people do go against it so determinedly?
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Ignore all the rights and privledges they do have, then yes. Even though they have adoptive stepparent rights and the same parental rights and responsibilities granted to and imposed upon spouses in a marriage
Still right, much to your chagrin.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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So they have everything EXCEPT a few rights --- let's ignore those, shall we ? After all, almost as good is just as good in Rap world. Hey, just b/c you have to go to the back of the bus doesn't mean you can't ride it --- right ? You've got all the rights that count.
And Rap --- when did you stop being an a-religious independent and become a right-wing religious toadie ?
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Along with that roaring, on fire economy, those stockpiles of WMDs, the 95% of 'them' who don't pay taxes, the torture that wasn't that never happened except when it was by a few bad apples, the eavesdropping that never happened but was legal anyway, and the election of McCain --- you're wrong, to no one's surprise - yet again.
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Rue,
Its not a right to get married.
They can have civil unions. Maybe.
You, nor the liberal ilk, can force churches to marry people. Separation of church and state remember?
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