Kaylee's appeal

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MENELUIN

Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Not enough of you... perhaps it's just my age (23), but most of the guys go for the Inara types... hot and mysterious. They seem to be pretty darn intimidated by an honest and emotional person and would prefer someone less cheery and more subdued.

I'm hoping that when they get to the settle down age (hopefully soon?) they'll be more inclined to go for the Kaylee type.

The other option is to go for the Tracey type... the adorable guy that might not normally look at you, but will end up hurting you BIG TIME if you let anything happen, because he's just not ...... ready, or all there... or able to be.

Sometimes... one can only hope.

//Apparently enough of us that every "cute girl" I've met is already taken by some suitably clueless 6-7 foot tall male-model type.

It's like I'm living on a FOX show or something.

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HENDLEFE

Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:49 PM

According to Freud, you like her because she reminds you of your mom.

FIREFLEW

Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:32 PM

Well, my name makes my ideas fairly obvious :). I guess the curvy element is a factor, but I guess it's her sunny disposition and personality that I like her most for.

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I agree about Kaylee being the "most real". Inara is obviously more beautiful than Kaylee, but she also falls into the "too good to be true" classification. Kaylee is actually more attractive to most guys (well, me anyway) because she doesn't look like she just stepped off the pages of a fashion magazine.

"That'll put marzipan on your pie plate, bingo!"

I can certainly agree with this point of view - whilst Inara is incredibly attractive, there is the idea that she is almost too attractive - by no means a bad thing, but not always the best thing.

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That being said, I love her for her smile ... not just her smile, but the way her entire face lights up. I want to pull her into my arms and keep her safe forever.

Her face is just so expressive - that "sheep on hind legs" comment, she has this hurt face which is very sad.... but when she is happy, she is a beacon of joy, which is again another facet of the jem that is Jewel/Kaylee.

I liked that last sentance :D.

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

DTT

Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:57 PM

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Originally posted by Hendlefe:
According to Freud, you like her because she reminds you of your mom.

According to Freud, everything reminds you of a)your mom or b)eating poop.

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

ZOID

Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 AM

Howdy, Meneluin and gentlefolk!

Now is the time for zoid to talk about women (and probably pis... er, alienate everyone).

When I was a teenager, all my friends were so keen to lose their 'sainthood' -- what we called male virginity at my school, back at the dawn of Time -- that they would sleep with any female who'd lie still for the requisite 30 seconds. It made you a man.

I got my opportunity to shed the tag one night at a party, with a girl who had just helped a couple other guys lose the onus. She wasn't drunk or high, she was really popular and pretty. Of course, since she was the first girl I'd ever seen naked outside the pages of Playboy, I thought she was the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen. Though I really couldn't tell you what her face looked like, reminiscing today, I still have a vivid mental image of her breasts; like I said, she was the first naked female I'd ever seen.

Here's the funny part: Even though she was a 'sure thing', I didn't lay a hand on her. I wanted my first time to be for love. Go ahead, laugh it up. About two remorse-filled years later, at the age of nearly 17, I met, wooed and won my first girlfriend, who was an 18-year old out-of-stater going to U of H on a majorette scholarship. So my first time -- and hers -- did turn out to be for love. We had a five year love affair that thankfully didn't include marriage; I'd have ruined both of our lives.

I joined my first band just shy of my 18th birthday, and over the course of the next decade, slept with an obscene number of women. I 'grappled' (sure wasn't 'making love') with women of every age, race, creed and socionomic background, all across the Southern and Western United States, Great Britain, Hawaii, Guam, New Guinea (just missed Australia), the Philippines and Japan. I didn't even have any pickup lines: the women did, and they always worked. Some might think that I'd be proud -- or ashamed -- of this 'accomplishment'.

Strangely, I'm neither proud nor ashamed. Those women wanted something from me, something only I could give them: they wanted to rub themselves against the animal inside me. At that time in my life, I would never refuse a lady anything. And I did treat them like ladies, beautiful and sexy. I did sleep with oh, say, a third of them, that were physically gorgeous by any measure you'd care to use. I also slept with a few that could only be described as 'coyotes'. Ask Gunhand the difference between a 'wolf' and a 'coyote'; I'll bet he knows. But the vast majority were just ordinary, run-of-the-mill, healthy and fit young women (and twice, bone-chillingly, mature-looking girls who snuck into the club with fake IDs).

But I never really got used to waking up with a stranger, no matter how beautiful, or fun, or exotic she was. I always felt empty and alone afterward (poor zoid). So, even though my first wife didn't mind what I did when I was on the road for weeks at a time (it was a necessary part of the job and being successful), it took the heart out of my devotion. I was wrong. It was a mistake. We divorced and breaking my promise -- that it would be forever -- was the worst defeat I have ever suffered. I had failed her, and more importantly, I had failed myself.

I went without sex for a full year. I couldn't make an emotional connection and as when I was a teen, I wanted love or nothing. I got better. I got back in touch with who I really was. There was lots about myself that I wished I could change, that I just didn't like -- and it's still true today -- but that I knew were always going to be a part of my nature until I stop drawing breath. I accepted those things, I acknowledged them; I accentuated the positives and deemphasized the negatives to the extent that I could. I was okay being me, I was okay being alone. In fact, I got to the point where I was really good at being alone; I was terrific. (Okay, let's not get carried away here, zoid. Not having sex for a year, I got into more fist fights than I had since I was sixteen. That might float in the

RAW53X

Friday, May 21, 2004 3:15 AM

i like all the girls on ff. river is one of my personal faves. she might be crazy buy most people's standerds. but she is the most inteligent on the ship. she just see things diffrentley. to most.

kaylee is a girl who enjoys life. and all it has to offer.

inara is the stuning because of her grace an nature.

zoe has a strent that draws you in.

but the one person you have forgot to mention is Mrs rennolds aka brigit aka saffron. she is hot

WHOODAHN

Friday, May 21, 2004 7:13 AM

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You may now all return to less serious discussions. Here's a start: I have always preferred Saffron. She's the 'heaviest' girl on the show; Kaylee is skinny compared to her. In OMR, after she's "readied herself" and we see her from behind? That girl has got some serious zaftig going on around her waist and hips. Reminds me of my wife: I sincerely hope I never meet Ms. Hendricks in person, and that's the highest sexual compliment a woman will ever get from me.

Zoid,
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I've been married for 26 years and have never strayed from my wife so I can't relate to everything you have shared with us. I do think that as we get older we gain the wisdom to realize that a loving relationship is the goal. The bloom of youth and the fury of first love are wonderful things but they don't last forever. My wife has matured in 26 years and doesn't turn anyones head but mine, but she is still a beautiful woman to me. She looks like Saffron will in 20 years. When I look at my wife I see her as she is now and as the tall, sexy redhead she was 26 years ago.

I once read that a good marriage is like a campfire. A campfire will start out with a blaze and give off a lot of light, heat and is a wonderful, beautiful, mesmerizing thing but then the kindling burns away and the fire starts to go out. You need to add bigger logs and constantly fan the fire to keep it going. It takes a lot of work and attention. Eventually the logs will develop a deep burning fire that will last a long time. It's not as pretty or flashy as the kindling but it's a warm comfortable heat.

There is one thing about Kaylee and River that I don't think has been mentioned. When I see them I think of the daughters I never had.

"I ain't crazy and I've got papers to prove it"

THECLAPS

Friday, May 21, 2004 7:35 AM

I agree with whoever brought up the Saffron point. Weight = Curves = good.

All you people saying she's so pure and embodies goodness, that's all nice and grand but come on! Jewel Staite is HOT. When you browse the net surfing for porn, you don't go: "Wow, she'd make a great wife..." *fap**fap**fap**fap*

So, in the interest of objective obejectification, Jewel Staite and Saffron have the nicest curves = nice eye candy. What was to seperate them on the show from Inara, was that Inara represented a *different* kind of beauty. Her skills at "companionship" means her valuable social skills, which is why she's highly sought after.

But back to being a pig, I think if she put on a few pounds in the right places, she could pull off a Kaylee. Note: certain outfits work with certain body-types. Kaylee would NOT look as stunning as Inara in her outfits.

Anyways, lets continue my equation

Weight = Curves = good
No weight = no curves = bad
Too much weight = one big curve = bad

It's all about moderation folks

To turn it around, I don't think it works the same for us men though. I think ultra-cut is the preferred image when it comes to women idealizing men. Just saying, we got the short end of the satisfaction-stick.

EDIT: For the sake of actually fully answering the thread. Kaylee's appeal: None of the bogus dancing around shit that Inara does. Not the vague idealization of "purity," but she has *Honesty* in action and response, and hell if that doesn't make things simple, and enjoyable.

PS: I read over my post and went: "wow, that's disjointed". You'll have to tough it.

Ain't. We. Just.

INSIGHT SPINNER

Saturday, May 22, 2004 3:28 AM

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Originally posted by Meneluin:
Not enough of you... perhaps it's just my age (23), but most of the guys go for the Inara types... hot and mysterious. They seem to be pretty darn intimidated by an honest and emotional person and would prefer someone less cheery and more subdued.

I'm hoping that when they get to the settle down age (hopefully soon?) they'll be more inclined to go for the Kaylee type.

Sometimes... one can only hope.

~~~~~~~~
http://www.thepaperbackwriter.com
AIM: KingArthursPiano
E-mail/MSN: sgtpprsgrl@hotmail.com

Meneluin,

Where you are is where you are -- I can't make the folks around you appreciate you for your light and not focus on your physical self, but I can assure you that there are those who focus on the interior beauty as well as or even instead of the exterior.

My husband prefers heavier women. I met him after I had gained a good deal of weight due to a hormonal condition. He said he would never have spoken to me if I had been my "normal" thin self. My brother married a woman who can only be described medically as grossly obese. She is full of love and wonderful. She recently had "the surgery", because she really is quite large and needs to reduce the burden on her body to effectively care for herself and her family, but My brother didn't need her to be thin to love her.

And then there is Zoid's shiny tribute told all for you.

Look, we are just strangers on a board who love a show together, but still you are loved by us. If you embody the cheery wonderfulness of our Kaylee, how can we help but love you? Trust that the beauty of who you are will outshine the limited tastes of those around you.

insight spinner
__________

Just an object. It doesn't mean what you think....

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:18 AM

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Originally posted by Meneluin:
Not enough of you... perhaps it's just my age (23), but most of the guys go for the Inara types... hot and mysterious. They seem to be pretty darn intimidated by an honest and emotional person and would prefer someone less cheery and more subdued.

I'm hoping that when they get to the settle down age (hopefully soon?) they'll be more inclined to go for the Kaylee type.

The other option is to go for the Tracey type... the adorable guy that might not normally look at you, but will end up hurting you BIG TIME if you let anything happen, because he's just not ...... ready, or all there... or able to be.

Sometimes... one can only hope.

//Apparently enough of us that every "cute girl" I've met is already taken by some suitably clueless 6-7 foot tall male-model type.

It's like I'm living on a FOX show or something.

~~~~~~~~
http://www.thepaperbackwriter.com
AIM: KingArthursPiano
E-mail/MSN: sgtpprsgrl@hotmail.com

In my opinion (and experience), it is when you stop looking that you find someone. Just have patience and let life happen, it isn't a race.

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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