It's time for changes..... lots of them.
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 9, 2025 15:58
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Heh... good luck with any of that Lester. That's so far to the neo-Christian-right even I can't have your back on most of that. I'm not knocking your opinions here or anything and I'm not trying to start a fight with you.... Just saying that chances aren't so good on a majority of that when the Dems run everything. (I know what it's like to have plenty of disagreers here and in the Real real world, being a smoker)
Perhaps I worded the question wrong when I started this thread since it's been nothing but the usual suspects lashing out at each other..... but that's my RWED..... 
I just want the Government to step off and quit trying to micromanage every bit of our lives, and stop using money to control our states and towns and schools and even ourselves as individuals. I'd rather put up with the unknown than be bullied or coddled into a false sense of security.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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I understand, diagreement isn't always a sign of conflict.
i too used to be a two pack a day smoker( kinda hard not to be part of the tobbaco club while in the army) until recently, and i had people talk about my evil second hand smoke was going to sufficate them while we were out in the open.
which part cant you have my back on? im curious. is it the ban on abortion?( i;ve even gone as far as to offer to adopt a child if the mother carried it to full term. it wasn't my kid, i know, but i felt that if i could make that small of a difference it would be worth the 18 yrs of responsibility) or the freeze on spending? or the 'lets keep giving the army money' rant?
i know the dems wont do any of that, in fact they will probably screw things up even worse than the republicans did, but just because the majority wants something doesn't mean it's the right thing. it just means that they can get away with doing the wrong thing.
Awesome as Always,
Lester
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Quote:Um, hi Les...I was wonderin'...precisely what wolves are knocking at our gate?
Originally posted by Lester:
2: for him to not cut spending on the military by 25 percent, when the wolves are knocking at the gate.
'Cause, see, I don't hear no fighting...I SEE fighting on TV from the Middle East and such, but right here at our 'gate'? Not so much....
Curious Chrisisall
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Quote:
wolves are knocking at the gate.
"WE HAVE BEEN TOLD OF PHANTOMS"
" I beg leave to consider the circumstances of the Union antecedent to the meeting of the Convention at Philadelphia. We have been told of phantoms and ideal dangers to lead us into measures which will, in my opinion, be the ruin of our country. If the existence of those dangers cannot be proved, if there be no apprehension of wars, if there be no rumors of wars, it will place the subject in a different light, and plainly evince to the world that there cannot be any reason for adopting measures which we apprehend to be ruinous and destructive."
-AntiFederalist #2, excerpted from the Speech of William Grayson, on June 11, 1788.
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So, umm, tell me wouldja ?
How many divisions have they fielded ?
How many aircraft carriers in their navy, and what combat aircraft are they fielding from them ?
How much of their sub fleet is deep strike or nuclear capable ?
How many battleships in their task forces ?
How much armor are they equipping their divisions with ?
How much of their airforce are strike bombers, or fighter bombers ?
How large is their merchant marine force ?
How many ICBMs in their long range missle silos ?
What is their production ability in reference to heavy and medium tanks ?
What is the range of thier mobile artillery and how fast can they move it ?
Do we have any intel on the logistical basing they intend to use for their massive invasion ?
Eh ?
Oh, they're not invading us ?
Fuck em, not our problem then.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Hey Lester,
I don't totally disagree with any of it, nor do I totally agree with any of it.
As far as abortions are concerned, I personally abhor the idea of one, and I am probably guilty of being too judgemental of someone who would kill their unborn child, but it is not something for the Federal Government to decide for us. I feel the same way about gay marriage and smokers rights as well. (That list could go on and on and on....)
Now... if your church were to find out, would I have a problem with them telling you that you couldn't attend anymore? Absoulutely not.
For me to have any other stance on the choice of Abortion would be hypocritical, and immediately I would lose any serious footing that I would have in my smoking argument, since I am only one powerless man uncapable of any doublethink spin that Fox or MSN can get away with on a daily basis. I know I am killing myself slowly. I am aware that other people don't like it. I don't smoke in the building where people work, but I just don't understand why I am constantly denied the request for an outdoor facility to smoke in during the winter where ONLY smokers would go.
Fortunately, I don't know of anyone who has had an abortion personally. That's not to say that I don't know people who have had abortions, but since I can't imagine something like killing a fetus is something anyone would want to brag about, I don't have to know that somebody I know or even care for has done it.
The truth is, every one of us is guilty of doing something that other people don't approve of. (Anyone who thinks otherwise is a self-rightous idiot) I just don't want the government detailing out a personal constitution for us all. Do you like the thought of being a robot that has to live by a strict code of rules that may be against your faith or personal inner-constitution? What if the situation were flipped and as a means of population control the Government used a set of criteria to decide that you among millions of other mothers/fathers were unfit to have children and ordered mandatory abortions if you or your spouse were to get pregnant? Since it was made law by our representives, likely without the "popular vote", would you abide?
If you kill your unborn kid, you're the one that has to live with it the rest of your life, and if there is somebody in control of us all, he/she may very well think you made the right choice, given your circumstances.
As for military spending, I don't believe the beast is at the gate. Nobody will ever convince me unless we clean up our own shores and keep illegals out. I believe very much in being prepaired for an attack and sustaining a millitary for defense, but a 12 billion dollar a month sink-hole that is being funded by taxes our grandkids will pay just to pay the interest on the debts we are accumulating is unacceptable.
What we did in Iraq wasn't a "preemptive strike" althought those words together are bad enough. What we did was commit an unjustifiable act of war against another country, and we did it with money that was magically created out of thin air.
What I fear is that paying off the interest on this debt will be the least of our worries when it comes time to pay the piper. If the Ivory Tower really crumbles it will be because we've exploited 3rd world country after 3rd world country, set a code of rules and ethics for everyone else in the world to live by and carelessly disregard ourselves, and then have the balls to act like we're entitled because "We're America DAMMIT!!!"
Try to continue funding that war when the dollar isn't worth anything anymore because nobody will take it. We just watched it happen to derivitaves. We owe anywhere between 9 and 15 Trillion dollars. We've put the printing presses on 24/7 to bail out our mistakes that is messing with everyone else in the world.
I don't see any reason why that couldn't happen.
Now throw onto that pile of manure a whole world full of countries who are sick of our self-righteous shit. (And in many cases, justifiably s
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Six String, i like you. you seem like a dirty, godless liberal
but i like you.
now, ok, maybe the wovles aren't knocking down the statue of liberty, the gate as it were,(i might have been getting a little bit dramatic there) but we have conflicts going on all over the globe, not just iraq. if you read the news(I usually read yahoo news cause i can read it on my work computer over lunch) we're slowly but surely shifting focus to afganistan. i think with continued overseas conflicts, we shouldn't cut defense spending.
and with the last comment, "but just because the majority wants something doesn't mean it's the right thing. it just means that they can get away with doing the wrong thing." i was trying to just reword the whole " just because something is popular doesn't mean it is right." bumper sticker i saw in the tenth grade. granted, there are some pretty black and white things out there, but dude, im the type of guy that if you leave me alone, than i don't have too much to worry about. I might refeer to someone as " that idiot who said this retarded stuff" but really, who out of us hasn't?my life is exciting enough without trying to tell someone else what to do( minus the abortion argument, but then again,that's just one of my pet peeves.) the whole reason i quit smoking was cause in the army you gotta be able to run and fast, or else you go back to mom and dads house. and you can run fast with two packs a day in your lungs.So light one up for me, will ya? and make it a menthol.
Awesome as always,
Lester
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Hey.... I know you were joking about the godless liberal thing, but I felt a little self-assessment was called for here.
I'm a believer in the Constitution. Something which the whiny liberals and the warhawk neo-cons have apparently forgotten about.
I don't know if I believe in God, although I ponder the question of his existance nearly every day. I'm likely to be one of the believers someday, but there's a lot that would have to happen for me to take that path. Nothing pisses me off more than door to door atheists though, and hearing how the UK is going to put anti-god messages on busses and billboards. (Right along side the images of the "eye in the sky" watching everyone, I would assume)
I go out of my way to avoid religious know it alls on my own... I don't need to see people who have started their own "anti-religion" doing the exact same crap.
As for the war.... Afghanistan is where we should have struk first if they really did do the deed, and it should have been a blow so powerful that it would have ended anyone's desire to try that shit again. As it is, we've spent several hundred billion dollars chasing phantoms, getting some of our kids killed, and pissing off the whole dammned world at the same time.
I've said this before... We have two very large oceans, and two relatively benign foreign countries surrounding us. We've got the largest naval fleet in the world by far that could house a majority of our soldiers for protection. We've got abundant resources, high technology and some of the most brilliant minds in the world at our disposal. I don't believe we need the global market and I CERTAINLY am against any talk of the "NEW WORLD ORDER" or any one world economy or government. Why give what we have away to others that can't provide anything in return?
Your rethugs want that just as much as their godless liberals do. Ain't nobody on the average American's side here.
The biggest thing about it all though is that we're funding our millitary on Chinese currency and racking up a debt that we obviously never have any intention of paying back. How long do you think that spigot will keep flowing before somebody cuts it off? It was all well and good when we told everyone else what to do, but that just doesn't seem to be the world climate today. Since we can't tell them what to do anymore, I think now is the best time to shut them out and say fuck 'em before we get any deeper into bed with them. Let them sort out their own problems.
(Any jew who wants refuge here from Isreal can come here, no questions asked. Hell, once my bro leaves, I've got an empty room for them to bunk until they get back on their feet)
And smoking... don't get me started. I probably smoke more just in spite of the bastards. Those fat, pill popping idiots that are holier than me because they don't smoke can go suck a cock.
Wish granted Lester... I just smoked two cigarettes while writing this. Menthol
Regards,
~6 "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Too much truth spoken here to handle? "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Wishisall!
Good one Chris!
Ha, ha, ha mine is an evil laugh!
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