Dollhouse moved to Friday deathslot.
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Please, I highly doubt that any executive even knows what a DVR is, never mind expect that any of there viewers to know how to work one and would.
IMO, the simplest answer is that a new shiny object turned there attention from the old shiny object (as said above as well) in the ADD-fest which is the executives world. Quite frankly, the only reason why I suspect they constantly get away with stuff like this is that they are all of the same mentality and there is no-one above them to fire them for it. And even if there is someone to answer to, all they'd have to do is add some grease to slip out of the spot (i.e. blame it on someone/something else), in there jock inspired world. Sci-fi didn't work out? It's just that there isn't many NERDS around.
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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Joss must be saying WTF?, Who do I have to kill to get a decent time slot?
There, I said it for him. OK let's see if I can understand this. People actually thought that Fox would give Joss a primo spot in their lineup. What were you thinking?
Seriously, Fox has no clue as to what to do with ANY sci-fi show, much less one of Joss's brilliant stories (saw the trailer for Dollhouse and it's awesome). I'm not trying to bash on Fox, it's just that the record speaks for itself.
So, here's how it is: We Browncoats must, I mean MUST burn the airwaves; TV, internet, TIVOing, fansites and the like with Dollhouse. We must make our presence felt from Day One. We do this and Joss could gain some much needed juju that he could slap on their ass in meetings. He walks in with the latest numbers and pounds it on the desk and says: "Have you seen these numbers, is that sick or what?"
May not get us our FF back but...a BDS? (stranger things have happened). We have to kick some serious butt with this folks. I just think back to when we crashed the internet with Dr. Horrible and everyone on late night was abuzz.
Shiny! Let's be bad guys!
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Please, I highly doubt that any executive even knows what a DVR is, never mind expect that any of there viewers to know how to work one and would.
IMO, the simplest answer is that a new shiny object turned there attention from the old shiny object (as said above as well) in the ADD-fest which is the executives world. Quite frankly, the only reason why I suspect they constantly get away with stuff like this is that they are all of the same mentality and there is no-one above them to fire them for it. And even if there is someone to answer to, all they'd have to do is add some grease to slip out of the spot (i.e. blame it on someone/something else), in there jock inspired world. Sci-fi didn't work out? It's just that there isn't many NERDS around.
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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
I hate to correct you, but being a student at an art school and taking Animation as a major, there are MANY, MANY nerds about (all visual effects majors, with the exception of moi). Throngs of us. 80% of the students in my classes go to conventions and build their own computers and can engage in conversations about the nuances of Star Wars that can last hours (possibly days if it's Star Trek and it's the right person). There's plenty of us young, eager nerds and geeks out here in my neck of the woods where SciFi is a staple of life (alongside comics, Anime, video games and ramen noodles).
However unlike how people perceive the young geeks and nerds, we tend to have a weekend life. Friday night for most is the beginning of the social weekend (unless you're the type of nerd that has sold their soul to WoW or Spore 'cause then that is your weekend). Nobody young watches TV on Friday unless its three in the morning.
The Friday night slot is totally the kiss of death, there's plenty of nerds out there, we just have social lives now. I'm really surprised about the friday night schedule though (I mean I shouldn't be, it's f*x) I thought the whole thing with making amends with Joss was that they were going to completely back his show 100% and all that.
Your Indian Pirate Lord,
Ash
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A few weeks ago I was telling a newly-discovered Whedon fan in my town about Dollhouse. She asked when it would be on and I said "Knowing Fox, it'll be getting the Friday night deathslot."
Sometimes, I hate it when I'm right 
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Who do I have to kill to get a decent time slot?
Lemme channel Jayne a moment here...
"Oh I could make a few suggestions..."
-F
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I agree with all afore mention ideas to start a movement amoung the flans to stay ON TOP with 'Dollhouse', I do not understand why F*x doesn't get it yet. I had so much hope for them with the web site and forums, etc. but I see it was all smoke and mirrors.
We must stay home and watch "Dollhouse" and "Terminator" so both Joss and Summer can keep eating and paying the bills.
We are all 'night owls' (most nerds/geeks) so we can do this, just move the party to afterward.
By the way, like the rest of you, I expected as much from the a$$hole that is F*x, and they expect us to run out and buy the Blu-ray release so they can make more money off of us.!!?!
Why do they always live UP to our LOWEST expectation???????????????????
F*X
Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion
...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal
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PLEASE, for the love of Dog, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Neilson ratings by which the television big hats keep track of so-called "viewership" are based entirely on people to whom they give the ratings surveillance "box" thing to. And we all know just how much those people give a crap what college kids think. I (and WE) have no solid disposable income, and so who cares if we watch because we can't by the products the commercials advertise. And in the end, isn't that all that matters? I feel very marginalized, since ALOT of my fellow Joss fans are in their 20s and no one cares that we care. It doesn't really matter if we watch every night as long as a substantial number of people with those boxes do....I smell a lobbying opportunity :P
I would say number one priority is for everyone to watch online. We KNOW they're keeping tabs on the numbers there.
Once, again, please correct me if I'm wrong (goodness knows I'm watching premiere of Dollhouse regardless of the timeslot. Havin' a party with the roomates even!)
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Morena Baccarin and Nathan Fillion, when asked about the Mal and Inara dynamic:
Morena: Who knows where this relationship is going.
Nathan: If I had my druthers, if we ever hook up I hope it’s on my death bed.
Morena: You don’t want to kiss me, do you?
Nathan: I do. But not for the sake of the show.
Morena: Good answer.
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*sigh* even adorable off screen...
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You know what I can't really blame Fox here. I'm starting to blame Joss. He keeps handing network executives TV shows that are unmarketable. What the heck does he expect? Once again he dumped a pilot episode on them that left them completely underwhelmed. Joss is shooting himself in the foot and then everyone acts like the execs are to blame.
Joss needs to sit down with J.J. Abrahams and figure out how to write a show that the execs can get behind. Lost was actually a character driven drama the first season and had massive potential. Joss could work wonders with a show like that. He just needs to suck up his pride and cater to the common Joe to some extent. If he would be willing to do that with just one series I bet he'd be on easy street. Suddenly all it would take to sell a show is the line "From the mind of Joss Whedon creator of Explosion Boobies".
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Except nobody knows what a "marketable" show is. If I had talked to marketing in 2004 about making a show starring four middle aged women, they'd have told me that it would never take off. If I suggested an alternative fantasy show with long story arcs and random plot twists, they'd have said it was unmarketable. Talent shows were a turn-off until American Idol (sorry about that by the way), quiz shows were yesterday's news until Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (once again, deeply sorry), sci-fi shows never appealed to family audiences or women until Doctor Who (you're totally welcome).
In any case, a lot of us thought this would happen. I'm not going to pretend that other networks are merciful benefactors whose motto is ars gratia artis but, you know, come on! This is Fox.
It could still take off. Lord knows this year's TV hasn't had a single breakthrough show yet but still... I'm not hopeful.
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Notice how all of those had about a 4 word description? That's what I mean by marketable. I'm not saying it needs to be a guaranteed hit. I'm just saying they can make a commercial about it. I've watched the dollhouse promo. It was a big ball of huh? I really have no clue about the point of the show. Is it going to be about a rogue organization running from the law? Is it going to be about someone on the inside trying to help the dolls? Is it more of a week by week thing where you just tune in to see what kind of crazy hi jinx happen on the next job for Eliza? I doubt it's even that easy to describe. Making it very difficult to market.
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