We deserve 30 minutes of Joss's time
POSTED BY: Bringitback
UPDATED: Sunday, October 26, 2008 14:59
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I have lurked through this topic for quite a while. I don't think we need to throw rocks at anyone. All these things were said about Star Trek Fandom when I was a wee sprite and it grew. Is Joss playing it better than Roddenberry? I don't know.
I do know that while I enjoy this fictional universe and while I am sad it wasn't allowed to grow into something bigger, I am glad for what we have. I will keep checking in here, I will go to the local events, I just bought another copy of Serenity to give to the library and I'll be patient. If nothing happens, I am glad for what I did have.
It won't be the end of life as we know it. There is other good fiction, the ensemble of writers and cast that made Firefly special will keep working and making stuff worth being a part of. If, in like 20 years we get something more and better, GREAT. If not, life is still sweet and I have a LOOOONNNNG list of things to do and see and be. Race ya ;-)
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I wish the Beatles would just make 20 more albums...
I wish Shakespeare would write 10 more plays....
I wish Sir Arthur Conan Doyle would write more Sherlock Holmes...
There will never be enough.
Still doesn't stop me from listening to the Beatles, watching Shakespeare performed or reading Sherlock Holmes on a regular basis.
This is the definition of the classics.
Same is true of Firefly.
While I want more, I'm thankful for what I've got.
Josephus
Only when love and need are one
And the work is play for mortal stakes
Is the deed ever really done
For Heaven and the future's sake.
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Self Entitlement?
Arrogance?
You may want to look up the meanings of the words you just used mate.
I do know the meanings. It is precisely the reason why I used those words.
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I know your type... When you can't be bothered using reason you and your friends use big words to make the un-educated feel bad.
Attacking me instead of my arguments is a logical fallacy. This is also an emotional appeal (another logical fallacy).
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Thats ok...I will push on and hope to get a few more out of you by the end of the topic.
You're making assumptions about what did/will do. Are you sure they are good ones?
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I thought it was a decent question...Why no growth through alternative mediums like books and comics?
And CK answered this. Which is why I pointed you back to it. As in, just because you don't like the answer, doesn't make that truth go away. What you need to do is come to terms with it, not flog a dead horse.
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But I should have known better to question the well supported facts around here
Not around here. Around the business world. You just can't say, "It's great! There should be more. I want more." and the magic Firefly fairy poofs more into existence. It just doesn't work that way.
Dwindling fan base + small fan base to start with = no more FF/S
The fact of the matter is that everything that Star Trek/Star Wars had going for it that made it successful, Firefly/Serenity does not have going for it. We have a 1/2 season and 1 movie that the creator and at least one actor has said that this is pretty much where it's going to end. Neither are getting replayed much at all. We also don't have a large or even growing fan base. The fan base is also not very active (that's actually an understatement). The fan base has a critical case of the "do it for me"'s. The one game that was supposed to be developed was killed.
In fact, the only thing that FF/S has going for it are the CSTS screenings. But, really, that isn't much. Because, there is only so many times that the same movie can be shown before it becomes pathetic. Those screenings are going to have to either show a wider range of Joss' work, generalise further or just stop. Because, we're starting to get to that, "So, you're showing a movie that's how many years old?" point.
CK mentioned that many people have said what was needed before and I am one of them. Even with how unpopular it makes me to point reality out, I will still do it. What is needed in a growing active fan base. Without that there is no hope.
There are many ways to be involved in that and exactly none of them involve things like savefirefly.org (sorry, but that's a giant counter-productive... movement). What really needs to be done, is to ignore Universal/FOX and produce the content ourselves. Fan fic, video games, art, whatever. Show them that they are missing out on making a good chunk of change by not doing it themselves.
But, all that means... people actually have to do something. Something that requires time and energy beyond posting on some web forum. And this fandom has historically shown that it isn't willing to do anything like that. Perhaps in small quantities. But, certainly not the volume that is needed.
In short, want to help the fandom out? Stop bitching and actually go and do something.
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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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I'm with Whisper and Gwek, and probably some others, on supporting Joss' Dollhouse and supporting the cast other ventures. It would bode well for Joss to have his latest story become a huge success.
From that success will come a considerable amount of clout (like the type George Lucas has) where he can call the shots. At this point, from the success of Buffy, in particular, and Dr. Horrible, in general, I think we are headed in that direction. I think it would be a good idea, in the support area, to let the producers of these shows: Chuck, T:SCC, etc. that we Browncoats are watching these shows because of our love for Firefly/Serenity and the characters they portrayed (it's true isn't it).
BTW special mention should go to Christina Hendricks and the show she's on: Mad Men. I have yet to see an episode, but it has received critical acclaim and....well, she's hot!
You hold 'til I get back!
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I don't know about "30 minutes," but a postcard, perhaps for the holidays, would be nice. 
Something like...
"Hi. This is Joss. I'm well and still thinking about you and the 'wacky fun' we had. I'm working on __________ and I hope you check it out. Isn't it great the success the cast is having? And the QMx stuff is very shiny! Hope to some day see you all on Persephone--just be sure your wallet's in your front pocket. Keep flyin'
--Joss"
As for professional novels... Yeah, I want 'em. Lots of 'em.
It is irrelevant if they are canon or not.
They can all be considered alternate universe if Joss ever gets the opportunity to continue the franchise with this or some "next generation."
I enjoy the occasional fan fiction, though I wish the multipart stories were more easily accessible and downloadable.
Hell, I buy the Margaret Weis Serenity Role-Playing Game and modules for the stories and 'verse materials--with no desire or expectation I'll ever play a game.
I love the Speculative segments and Badger's World and Tales of the Verse and other radio dramas. It does not matter that they are not canon.
If this is what our future holds because we are a small fandom, that's fine.
What is it we say?
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one"
Doing good works with Equality Now and KNTR is part of it--proud to do our parts.
I want my trilogy, but anything else of quality is just fine.
Hope to see some of you at Creation's Salute to Serenity Con in November.
Respectfully,
History
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Hmmm... lookie here:
http://whedonesque.com/comments/17945
Looks like you weren't the only one :)
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