We deserve 30 minutes of Joss's time

POSTED BY: Bringitback
UPDATED: Sunday, October 26, 2008 14:59
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BRINGITBACK

Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:29 PM

Can someone please read the last line of the very first post in this topic??

You don't think I know he owes us nothing?

Before everyone continues to attack for me 'demanding' things... read the posts, not just the headlines..

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Bringitback:
Can someone please read the last line of the very first post in this topic??

You don't think I know he owes us nothing?

Before everyone continues to attack for me 'demanding' things... read the posts, not just the headlines..

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Originally posted by Bringitback:
In all reality...we are the ones that owe you...but gorram it...im guna ask anyway

Read it the first time, still disagreed with the entire post and your whole tone enough to post what I did. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they didn't read what you said.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

BORIS

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:27 AM

Hey yeah...I've befriended so many cool people because of the Firefly connection. People I may not have connected with otherwise. And I've met them at such diverse places (cafes, bus stops, planes, work, toilet cues, etc.) and they are such a diverse bunch...so many good things from one man's little TV show!

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:01 AM

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Originally posted by Bringitback:

The reason why he wont commit to any storyline post Serenity and barely anything before the BDM is because he still holds hope.

You wanting to hear him say it, and him actually believing it are two very very different things.

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Originally posted by Bringitback:

Why halt production on a franchise when it is gaining momentum??

Why give us sweet FA for so long?

Because, FF/S is not gaining momentum. Haken has stated explicitly, that over the past years, overall traffic to this site has dramatically slowed. Similarly for other sites. Don't let people popping in from time to time let you be deluded otherwise. If fact, both Joss and Nathan in an interview stated explicitly that it would be unreasonable for the fans to expect more.

Which is pretty much the problem. Fans think that they can make an emotional argument to get FF/S back. This just isn't the case. For there to be more, there has to be a business case. Something on the order of a 10% guaranteed return on investment is what business people look for today. And comics are the only venue that is realistic given todays FF/S fan base.

Much as you might want it not to be, that is the reality of the situation. If you want more FF/S, look to the comics, or make it yourself.

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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

BRINGITBACK

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:27 AM

Look...Like it or not, there are enough fans out there to support a novel and comics.

2 things which Joss has not allowed to grow.

Whether or not there is enough to make another movie or TV show profitable is another argument for another day.

All im saying is...expand the franchise in ways that you are ABLE to, or fight again for a return that is out of your control.

Give us a novel, do more regular comics...dont just let the franchise die.

At what point do we get a novel?
When noone cares anymore?

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:12 AM

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Originally posted by Bringitback:
Look...Like it or not, there are enough fans out there to support a novel and comics.

2 things which Joss has not allowed to grow.

Whether or not there is enough to make another movie or TV show profitable is another argument for another day.

All im saying is...expand the franchise in ways that you are ABLE to, or fight again for a return that is out of your control.

Give us a novel, do more regular comics...dont just let the franchise die.

At what point do we get a novel?
When noone cares anymore?

The arrogance and self-entitlement of this post is astounding. You really need to (re-)read CK's post (again).

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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

BRINGITBACK

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:39 AM

Self Entitlement?
Arrogance?

You may want to look up the meanings of the words you just used mate.

I know your type... When you can't be bothered using reason you and your friends use big words to make the un-educated feel bad.

Thats ok...I will push on and hope to get a few more out of you by the end of the topic.

I thought it was a decent question...Why no growth through alternative mediums like books and comics?

But I should have known better to question the well supported facts around here

EMBERS

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by Bringitback:
Self Entitlement?
Arrogance?

I thought it was a decent question...Why no growth through alternative mediums like books and comics?

But I should have known better to question the well supported facts around here

actually I can see you are making a good point...
Star Trek was left after that show was cancelled and the fans started running their own conventions, wrote their own fan fic, and did grow the fandom....
of course they were lucky because the show was being rerun on every TV every week for over a decade.....
and finally that first Star Trek movie got made.

Joss is looking at this from his own POV: he has stories he wants to tell, and he doesn't want to let anyone else (except maybe Tim Minear) mess around with the Firefly/Serenity universe....

So obviously he isn't growing the fandom,
you are right... he is letting it stagnate....

but it doesn't mean he doesn't love it, he just wants to keep it as his creation....
I do think that eventually he'll get to make a sequel ...
but I can get your resentment.

It is true that a lot of us here have just gotten to accept Joss as our 'Master now', and we are willing to move on to his next project.....

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=15816

BRINGITBACK

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:17 AM

thanks Embers

I appreciate that little bit of sanity in a topic that has quickly stagnated.

Firefly is Joss's baby and he doesnt want anyone else touching it....I get that..

I hope someone actually gets in his ear and tells him that MORE stories will bring more fans.. more fans will bring the sequel we ALL crave.

Firefly is certainly no Star Wars or Star Trek... but we could certainly take a few leaves out of their book.

You know Embers...I agree with you...We will see more of our BDH one day.. Im holding hope that the new Star Wars TV series re-lights the need for a gritty, interesting scifi alternative ;)

Who knows? Maybe that's what Joss is waiting for too...

Some people juggle geese...

ZEEK

Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:46 PM

I personally don't want what happened to Star Wars to happen to Firefly/Serenity. Lucas let authors run wild with Star Wars novels and then when he finally came back to the Star Wars universe he took a huge dump on the novels and did whatever he wanted.

Do you really want Joss to allow novels only to retcon them when he finally gets to write what really happens in the verse? I don't.

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