More Subtle yet interesting show observations - post yours
POSTED BY: jewelstaitefan
UPDATED: Friday, December 19, 2008 17:29
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Got a couple real quick observations, first is one that was touched on previously about Mal bowing... The part that was excluded from The Train Job ep. but was in the script had Mal mistakenly curtsy as Simon was introducing River. As a follow up in Shindig during the dance with Inara, Mal begins a cursty at the start of the dance, catches himself, then bows instead :P (I love it!)
A second little one I noticed, though it was probably pretty obvious apart from the fact that I have recurring brain-farts: Jayne's busy stealing Simon and River's stuff while they're busy trying to get themselves 'lit on fire', in Safe, right? At the end of the episode, River steals Jayne's breadroll when they're having dinner. She knew what he did, and it was payback time! Pretty cool moment I hadn't noticed before. :D
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Originally posted by DraginSpleen:
Got a couple real quick observations, first is one that was touched on previously about Mal bowing... The part that was excluded from The Train Job ep. but was in the script had Mal mistakenly curtsy as Simon was introducing River. As a follow up in Shindig during the dance with Inara, Mal begins a cursty at the start of the dance, catches himself, then bows instead :P (I love it!)
A second little one I noticed, though it was probably pretty obvious apart from the fact that I have recurring brain-farts: Jayne's busy stealing Simon and River's stuff while they're busy trying to get themselves 'lit on fire', in Safe, right? At the end of the episode, River steals Jayne's breadroll when they're having dinner. She knew what he did, and it was payback time! Pretty cool moment I hadn't noticed before. :D
Remember that after the deleted scene with River, Mal does bow in Inara's shuttle when leaving.
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I always liked in War Stories when Inara shows her client out, Jayne says "I'll be in my bunk" and Zoe comes out with "Jayne, grab your weapon". However, the script makes it clear this is to be obvious (to everybody but Jayne), so we can't really call it subtle.
Also, int the pilot, I've been mostly puzzled when at the end, Mal says to Simon that, among other things, he ain't weak, and that ain't nothing - I didn't see how he would be referring to Simon's physical strength, or strong doctoring skills, or strong fighting ability, but I didn't conjure a whole lot about it. Now it dawns on me that Mal was probably referring to Simon's rescuing River, defying the Alliance, saving an innocent - that is what Mal sees as strength, and that perhaps Simon is human enough, despite his upbringing and social status, that he and Mal can work out the sharing of mutual space for a while.
I know this response is for a post from almost a year ago, but I had to. I just rewatched the Pilot a few nights ago(for the 4,378th time ;P), and that thought hit me too, in regards to Mal viewing Simon as 'not weak' by the end of the episode, here are my thoughts...: Simon took two tremendous punches from the Captain in that episode alone. Not only was Simon NOT knocked unconcious, nor seriously bloodied, he had nary a tear in his eye. Mal found out that Simon can take one hell of a punch, and get right back up again! Kudos to the observation on inner strength as well, Simon is very strong and heroic in that respect too! I'm sure all of it factored in to Mal's growing respect for him. I just love the fact that Simon actually gets to finally deck Mal back on the movie! Paybacks are hell, ain't they?
I really, really don't think it has to do with Mal's consideration of Simon's physical strength in any way. Simon's resilience as a factor of how much he'll put up with to defend and protect River, THAT is what Mal considers justification of Simon's value to Serenity. That is the only strength Mal takes to heart. That gumption is what Mal would have valued in Serenity Valley, and he values it on Serenity.
IMO anyway.
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Dunno if this has been mentioned, but in the movie, after they discover Miranda, River is having a mild mental breakdown.
The camera is performing this circular make-you-dizzy thing that I guess is trying to excentuate the confusion.
It's actually quite clever, cos you realize it's one very long take they had to do.
Jayne steps in and agrees with her.
"They're all dead. Everyone here died for no reason."
And the moment he says that, the camera stops spinning.....and lands directly on Wash.
In retrospect I find that quite foreboding.
I'm still pissed off at his death. Not that he died...hell I love the impact of a good death...but rather their poor treatment of it. It's all rather incidental. But perhaps that was the point - no time to grieve, RUN!
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I watched "The Message" recently and from the commentary and interviews we know this was the last episode to air. The music at the end when they give Tracy to his family is also a farewell to the show. As this is all going, we see Kaylee take Simon's hand. I wonder if this is Joss' way of saying they get together.
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One subtle detail that caught my eye was in the BDM when, after Mal's "St. Crispan's day speech" Jayne takes a drink and passes the bottle across to Simon who also takes a drink. To me He is saying "I don't care who you are, we're all in this together."
Unfortunately (I think) my strange, convoluted and perverse mind flashed on an old Bill Cosby monologue entitled "Revenge" where he says "I let Jr. Barnes think I was his best friend. I even let him drink from my orange soda bottle with out wiping the top off." Maybe that's why they locked me up and won't allow me anything sharper than color crayons to write with. (I eat them--the purple ones taste best) Oops, gotta go--here comes the man with my meds.
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In response to Jubal Early taking out Book: I think Book does have hand to hand combat training. Look how he takes out the Fed in the pilot episode, and remember the weirded out look Jayne gives him? Jubal just got the drop on him... literally.
Also, I read in the RPG handbook that Mal didn't pay more than 2,500 credits for Serenity... Of course, we don't know how that translates to our systems of currency. I kind of think core credits might be like yen, in that 1 yen is like a penny in US dollars, and that platinum used on the rim is more like a dollar. When the crew is paid in platinum, it's always a seemingly little amount compared to what their goods are said to be worth. Like in the pilot, when they're paid for the food stuffs, it's supposed to be really valuable, but they seem just fine with the tiny pouch with a little coin in it that they're given.
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