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POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, October 20, 2008 21:28
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Totally disagree. The fridge scene nearly ruins the whole movie for me. Indy's always been in extreme and fantastical situation, but through it all, he's human. He hurts, he bleeds. A single punch can and has sent hem reeling. A tumble like that in the fridge would have broken every bone in his body. It was on par with the equally rediculous raft scene in Temple of Doom.
There's a reason that the phrase "Nuking the fridge" is starting to become the film equivalent to a TV show's "Jumping the shark".
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Totally disagree. The fridge scene nearly ruins the whole movie for me. Indy's always been in extreme and fantastical situation, but through it all, he's human. He hurts, he bleeds. A single punch can and has sent hem reeling. A tumble like that in the fridge would have broken every bone in his body. It was on par with the equally rediculous raft scene in Temple of Doom.
Y'know if we really go down this line of thought we're going to ruin the whole adventure for ourselves, starting with Raiders.
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Quote:I didn't mind that he survived (he had to), but a small acknowledgement that it HURT might have been appropriate.
Originally posted by Storymark:
There's a reason that the phrase "Nuking the fridge" is starting to become the film equivalent to a TV show's "Jumping the shark".
Ouchisall
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Yeah, even that much of an aknowledgement would have helped immensely.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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See, that was probably my biggest problem with this scene compared to others in the earlier series.
However OTT they may have been they always came back to reality somewhat because Indy got hurt.
Where was the pain in the nuke scene?
Take the tank scene in Last Crusade for example. Indy is beaten up, ran against the wall and then driven off the cliff. Definitely a scene that would test the sturdiest hero. Then he clambers back up (not very easily) and wonders what is going on. Jokes ensue and then he falls flat on his ass completely knackered and beaten.
Indy got out of the fridge in KOTCS and barely stumbled. No cuts and no (visible) bruising. Plus he is a lot older these days and wouldn't be able to take the brunt of it like he did before. At some stages in the film it looked like he had trouble walking, never mind anything else.
I just hope they don't do the next one I've heard rumours about.
BTW I love the line about 'nuking the fridge' being used for movies like 'jumping the shark' is for TV.
"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."
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Quote:I forgive it only because it's the only thing in the movie like that (personally, I would have had the fridge door open and had Indy mostly unconscious, just waking to the fireball in the sky...).
Originally posted by lwaves:
Indy got out of the fridge in KOTCS and barely stumbled.
ChrissmashsoonChrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I forgive it only because it's the only thing in the movie like that (personally, I would have had the fridge door open and had Indy mostly unconscious, just waking to the fireball in the sky...).
Originally posted by lwaves:
Indy got out of the fridge in KOTCS and barely stumbled.
ChrissmashsoonChrisisall
If it was just that I could forgive it as well, but IMHO there was a hell of a lot more wrong with it. Some will disagree and that's fair enough, but I think the bad far out-weighed the good.
Oh well, at least I have the original three.
Yep, nine and a bit weeks till the jolly fat man breaks into our homes. And this year (thanks to change of company ownership) I get two full weeks off instead of one week off. Yippee.
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Quote:Really, let's analyze the differences...
Originally posted by lwaves:
I think the bad far out-weighed the good.
Oh well, at least I have the original three.
The look of the film was somewhat washed out (no Slocombe).
Ford was, of course, older looking.
The music was not as vibrant as it could have been (I mean the new themes).
Russians instead of Nazis.
Did I miss anything? Seem like mostly small potatoes to me...Doctor Jones.
isall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Really, let's analyze the differences...
Originally posted by lwaves:
I think the bad far out-weighed the good.
Oh well, at least I have the original three.
The look of the film was somewhat washed out (no Slocombe).
Ford was, of course, older looking.
The music was not as vibrant as it could have been (I mean the new themes).
Russians instead of Nazis.
Did I miss anything? Seem like mostly small potatoes to me...Doctor Jones.
Okay Belloqisall.
I don't mind the Russians as they fit the time period, Indy being older is also okay (although I would have preferred it if he was a little younger and therefore more able to be running around). I liked the killer ants as well, they have to have a stomach churning moment in each film.
At no point (that memory serves) are there any 'cute' critters in the originals that bore no relevance to the plot. The monkey is Raiders served it's part as it led the baddie to Indy and also warned Indy about the dates.
Marion in Raiders is tough, independent and yes, she's in love with Indy. After the first few scenes with her in KOTCS she seemed to turn into a lovestruck teen (that may be a bit harsh but I don't know how else to put it as it's late when I type this).
The sidekicks in the originals also served their purpose (even if it was comic relief). Mac was cruelly wasted with a 'is he/isn't he a traitor' plotline. I am a big fan of Ray Winstone and having met the man it is hard for me to say this as I respect him greatly but the part had 'cliche' written all over it. Yes I know it's not his fault, it's the writing, so this bit is aimed more at that than the actor himself.
The originals had a sense of wonder and of trepidation that you didn't know where they were going to go with it. Or what exactly was going to happen once the finale came around. KOTCS was predictable once they opened the crate and the bag was opened. Maybe it was just me but I thought aliens straight away.
Also KOTCS seemed to recycle parts from the other movies (and many non Indy movies as well). They all did it to some minor extent but not on this scale. KOTCS had a distinct whiff of unoriginality about it.
The humour in the first three was timed perfectly and came just when it was needed (for the most part). In KOTCS it seemed to fall flat. Some of the references to the other movies was great, but the newer bits just didn't seem to gel with the flow of the film.
And these aren't differences but the Tarzan impression by Mutt was laughable. Also his sword fighting whilst balancing on moving jeeps was just ridiculous (putting aside how fake it looked). He's a student, she's a trained killer. That just goes too far over the line.
And on a personal note why can they mention Henry Sr. and Marcus but not mention Sallah? Even if they didn't want him in the movie or John Rhys Davies didn't want to be in it, they could have mentioned him.
I'm sure there's more but it's late for me. Time for beddy-byes.
Look forward to your reply.
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