YES!!!! Obama WON the debate tonight!!!!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, October 16, 2008 20:01
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finally, we know who's gonna win.
The question of who won the debate is subjective. Most McCain supporters think McCain won. Most Obama supporters think Obama won.
Two important things to mention.
1. Joe the plumber fixed my septic tank a couple years ago. Did a good job. Different 'Joe the Plumber' but still...I got the point.
2. Joe the plumber thinks McCain won the debate and his demographic is the target voter here in Ohio.
So regardless of how this played in New York, Chicago, or LA...its how it played in Ohio that matters and locally, folks are suddenly fired up for McCain like I haven't seen since the start of the financial crisis.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
So, which is it, guys ? No one likes taxes, and you wish you didn't have to pay any? Or it's your patriotic duty, and we should feel good about giving your hard earned $$ up to Uncle Sam.
I personally like McCain's idea, that we pay ENOUGH in taxes, and the only way now to save our nation is to make actual cuts... not smaller increases in Gov't spending, but actual real cuts!
You're not real good with trying to hold more than one idea in your head at a time, are you? You can NOT LIKE paying taxes, but still feel that it's your solemn duty to do so, BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. Why's that so hard for you to figure out?
The Obama camp is sending out mixed messages, for those who are paying attention, but I know that's not very many of us out here. Here's an inteview from the Howard Stern show, asking Obama supportes in Harlem, NY, why they support Obama - only the interviewer flipped McCain's policies w/ Obamas, and the unwitting public STILL voted for Obama. ( LANGUAGE ALERT ) http://beltwayblips.com/video/howard_stern_interviews_obama_supporters/
Quote:See, you're attempting a classic Left wing ruse. The argument is that of lowering taxes and making Gov't act more fiscally responsible while you're attempting to introduce a red herring by providing a false alternative, that of there being NO taxes , what so ever. At issue isn't " Obama is for taxes, McCain is for none ", but which candidate is for soaking the achievers in this country even more, and spreading the wealth around , when in fact, taxes are suppose to be raised for the purpose of RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT.
Oh, and McCain likes taxes. They pay his salary. Also his gold-plated healthcare plan. Without our tax money, McCain might have to go look on the open market for his health care, instead of having his employer provide it. Let's see how far a $5000 tax credit gets him.
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There's something I'd like to see - a Senator willing to live the way he expects US to live.
Mike
I'd hope a Senator would expect us to live on what we could EARN, and not be taxed to death by the never satisfied hunger of a Gov't which sees no ends or boundaries of control over our lives. And I think McCain could do just fine not being paid, for all the $$ his wife has from her families free market success.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Which criminal mafia won the "debate" to destroy USA?
Real debates don't ban 75% of the candidates.
Real debates don't censor 90% of the questions.
Real debates don't allow foreign candidates.
Real debates don't allow candidates to use alias names:
1. Abraham "Lincoln" Rothschild
2. "Gerald Ford" Leslie Lynch King Jr
3. Bill "Clinton" Blythe Rockefeller
4. Barack Hussein Obama Sotoro
"Obama" WILL be worse than George DWI Bush.
Jewish Goldman Sacks owns "Obama".
To stay out of prison, GOP NeoCons will take a dive in 2008, just like Demorats took a dive in 2000 and 2004.
Barack Hussein Obama Sotoro's advisor, Polish jew Zbigniew Brzezinski visiting 'his boy' Osama Bin Laden, in training with the Pakistan Army, 1981, for President Jimmy Carter. So Obama's jewish advisor founded AllCIAduh. Photo originally scanned from the New York Village Voice. Photo credited to the Sygma/Corbis Agency, Paris
www.nysun.com/national/despite-criticism-obama-stands-by-adviser/62534/
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bozobama, playing his usual sub-par said absolutely nothing. what a self-inflated gas bag.
you folks are gonna love communism.
me, i'm gonna retire for 4 years and live off of YOUR money.
have a nice day now.
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I don't think most people are being swayed by the debates, to be honest. Both Hillary and McCain are seen as "part of the problem". Originally McCain was reluctant to make a strong argument for "change" for fear of offending the Bushites. Now that they've forgotten that Bush was their god (It only took a couple of months. They don't have good memories or strong reasoning skills.) and since the economic crisis McCain has redirected his message to "a new direction". But it's prolly too little too late to convince independents and the uncommitted. The best he can say is that he has hung onto HIS base, because they're willing to believe that he "gets it".
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Let's party like its 1929.
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I'd hope a Senator would expect us to live on what we could EARN, and not be taxed to death by the never satisfied hunger of a Gov't which sees no ends or boundaries of control over our lives. And I think McCain could do just fine not being paid, for all the $$ his wife has from her families free market success.
AuRaptor's economic policy: Marry rich!
'Rappy, why do you hate the troops? You're against paying taxes, which means you don't think that soldiers should be equipped, trained, or supported.
Why must you hate America so?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
McCain has redirected his message to "a new direction"
really ? ya think ? this is the "New" stump speech...
.... meet the new boss.... same as the old boss
http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/10/15/the-daily-show-john-mccain-a
ttempts-a-comeback-with-his-recycled/
eta: cool poster there Pirate N - but just what are those crazy foxes up to...?
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Quote:He hates his country because it's success is based on Bruce Lee's idea that you take what works, and make it your own (Capitalism, Socialism, whatever), and he also hates Lee as well, having been a financial success in a Communist country....
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Why must you hate America so?
HEY RAP- Red Scare!!!

Got his blood racing there for a second.
Chrisisall
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No, Auraptor's economic policy is Inherit money from your dad. And Hero's is Day trade on government time! Moral? Not so much.
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Let's party like its 1929.
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The question of who won the debate is subjective. Most McCain supporters think McCain won. Most Obama supporters think Obama won.
At this point, I don't think the debate is going to change anyone's mind if it's already made up. They're playing to the undecideds now, and on that score, Obama whipped McCain's tired old ass. Three polls I've seen show Obama "winning" among Undecided voters 55% to 22 or 23% - more than a 30-point drubbing of the White Devil.
EC
If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?
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