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NRA anti Obama ads......is this true?

POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Thursday, October 16, 2008 18:20
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Monday, October 13, 2008 8:50 PM

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I want the pink mist.
Wulf, you're not exactly a walking advert for gun ownership.

ETA: Reminds me of those news stories: Man Shoots Wife and Children in Custody Dispute. Kinda explains why the woman wanted a divorce AND custody, doesn't it?

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Monday, October 13, 2008 10:14 PM

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:02 AM

Sigy,

Don't worry. When the shit hits the fan, folks like me will protect you.

I'd rather you be able to protect yourself, mind. But, whatever...

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:11 AM

I have a gun, Wulf, and I know how to use it. If the shit hits the fan, if you come to MY door with a gun you better be careful.

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:21 AM

Lol Well, its good to know you have SOME fight in you.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Lol Well, its good to know you have SOME fight in you.

I am a lethal weapon my own self, guns would just slow me down, but I believe in the right to have 'em if y'all feel the need to.

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:07 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

I am a lethal weapon my own self, guns would just slow me down, but I believe in the right to have 'em if y'all feel the need to.




Yeah , acute lead intoxication has a way of putting your gung-fu into slo-mo mode...

'Gun-fu' is known for that...Makes all the fancy posturing seem ridiculously silly...

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:21 AM

Out2B - Come on, that was a bit much, don'tcha think ?

I am pretty rabid about the 2A, and that's one of the reasons I do NOT like Obamalamadingdong, cause he's not only anti gun ownership, he's as thoroughly dishonest about is as any other politico, and while not having the guts to stand up and try a ban, seems intent on playing the game of slowly chipping away at those rights till there's nothing left but a hollow shell - with the INTENT in the end, of prettymuch an outright ban, taken to the level of utter ridiculousness the UK has.

That path leads to a rubber room with crayons, so we don't accidently hurt ourselves in between our shifts of working to enrich the elitist bastards who DO have control over all the weapons, or worse.

I have no respect for the mollycoddling milquetoast quisling collaborator sellout bastards of the NRA, none... having carefully observed their actions in the past few years, and their squeamishness in addressing the Katrina confiscations till forced to on the pike of member outrage - I see the same self-serving treachery as the AARP visited upon seniors over the medicare drug programs.

Nope, NOT good enough for me - and although we're at fairly different odds religiously, I am with the JFPO, cause they've been down that road, handed em in, and watched as their relatives and families were herded into the camps.
http://www.jpfo.org/

THAT is where it ends folks, never you doubt it, and any study of history worthy of note will tell you the exact same thing, again and again - once you hand over the means, you might as well just slit your own throat on the spot, at least it'd be quick.

I know I sound harsh, but the sad fact is with so many folks unwilling to stand up for constitutional rights, those few who remain seek refuge in absolute rabidity to multiply the force of their dwindling numbers - I could care less what happens to folk who vote away their own freedoms, but when you wrap that anchor chain around my ankles too, expect to be regarded with the vile rancor that your treacherous actions have earned.

If *I* voted away YOUR freedoms, how would you then feel about me, ehe ?

What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED does not get across here, eh ?

"Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings - give us that precious jewel, and you may take every things else! Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth and listen to the song of that syren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?"

All that being said - the Second Amendment is a last ditch defense to protect the rest, and while the Fourth is an endangered species, and the First well on it's way, they ain't gone yet.

And so it strikes me with the utmost annoyance, when folk will go so far to protect ONE Constitutional Right, but refrain from, or actively resist, protecting them ALL.

Those ennumerated rights are not the only ones we have, and although the government acts like they are, which the AntiFederalists fully predicted would happen in precisely the fashion it has, those are specifically mentioned as a tripwire to alert the people that the Gov has crossed the line.

So if you're willing to stand and deliver for my right to bear arms in self defense - but unwilling to stand and deliver for any of the others...

Or if you're willing to stand and deliver for the other rights, but not this one...

Then go stand somewhere else, cause I don't want you beside me.

You can't pick and choose, you defend em all, or just surrender and go the fuck home, allright ?

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from histor

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 AM

What Frem said.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:57 AM

Out2B - Come on, that was a bit much, don'tcha think ?

What was ?

I know I sound harsh, but the sad fact is with so many folks unwilling to stand up for constitutional rights, those few who remain seek refuge in absolute rabidity to multiply the force of their dwindling numbers - I could care less what happens to folk who vote away their own freedoms, but when you wrap that anchor chain around my ankles too, expect to be regarded with the vile rancor that your treacherous actions have earned.

Hey bud ,

I've taken the Oath of office twice , to Support and Defend the Constitution , and the Bill of Rights , against all Enemies , Foreign and Domestic...

I hope your rant was a general one...We have much more to be concerned about from the Domestic Enemies , than the Foreign ones...

If this Republic were being governed in a genuine Constitutional manner , we'd have many fewer foreign enemies...

I find it odd that Obama is considered to be a 'constitutional scholar' , and yet he attacks the 2nd Amendment furtively...The question of this thread wasn't directed to the matter of McShame and his record , but in the interest of equal time , he's little , if any , better than his opponent...So far , though , I haven't seen anyone actively seeking to obscure the facts about his record within this thread...

Having said that , I have much less concern about Palin making an effort to establish a theocracy than I do about the continual erosion of civil liberties and Constitutional Rights...

Even in the face of the recent Supreme Court decision (re: DC gun ban) , the assaults against the 2nd continue unabated...

Actually , with redoubled vigor...

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