Do you believe in God? Bill Maher doesn't.

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KHYRON

Monday, October 13, 2008 1:12 PM

Quick question: If one is dead certain that there isn't a tea cup in direct orbit around the sun, does that count as faith, a belief, or plain old common sense?

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Monday, October 13, 2008 1:16 PM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Quick question: If one is dead certain that there isn't a tea cup in direct orbit around the sun, does that count as faith, a belief, or plain old common sense?

It would count as faith or a belief.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

KHYRON

Monday, October 13, 2008 1:22 PM

By that standard, there's no such thing as common sense.

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Monday, October 13, 2008 1:27 PM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
By that standard, there's no such thing as common sense.

If you say so. I don’t even know how to respond to that.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CORNCOBB

Monday, October 13, 2008 1:59 PM

Common sense could probably be defined as logical deduction or induction. Unless you have evidence that there is definitely no teacup orbiting the sun you cannot claim your assertion is anything more than a belief based on inductive reasoning e.g. A teacup has never been seen orbiting the sun, therefore there is no teacup orbiting the sun. The evidence supports your assertion but does not ensure that it's true. It's strong induction but still not deduction unless you can prove that the initial premise is true. In which case, according to Positivism, the premise becomes a fact ratehr than a belief. Doesn't mean it's not 'common sense' though.

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RALLEM

Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
OK, so here I go.

I believe in God. and contrary to what many athiests believe(I know there are many on this site alone) it doesn't make me stupid.

I have never lost sleep by reading the bible, in fact I hardly ever read anything in it. But I do believe there is a all mighty being(a creator) of everything. The universe, the way the seasons change, a single blade of grass, how utterly perfect people(and all life forms) are designed. Our earth is perfect for sustaining life with abundant food supplies, and water. It's exactly the right distance from the sun so that people don't fry, or freeze to death. It's so un-random it's scary. Everything has purpose.

Bill Maher's new movie is to try to dispell all religion, and all belief in God. Why? what does he gain? Who's funding his movie?
If your an Athiest, that's fine. It's what you believe. I may think your wrong, but I certainly wouldn't want you to become a christian either. Religion has always been a touchy subject. Why can't the stigma of Christians being "dummys" die? And while were at it, let's also drop the stigma of hostile athiests. Kirk Cameron didn't pay me to write this.

I think it is funny how the atheists can claim that we religious people are wrong in our having faith in God or in any religious deity in which we follow. I was watching a video on YouTube where Penn Frasier Jillette said that the Democratic Party was the party of Hate because they as a party cannot believe that the Republicans or anyone else could possibly disagree with them so therefore the Republicans in power must agree with them and are doing the things they do out of spite so therefore are evil and the Republicans should all die. This struck a chord with me because my best friend is an avid Democrat and he often goes into rants how evil Bush and Cheney are, and then goes into proper punishments for them. Anyway the video by Penn made lots of sense to me but then he begins to explain how President Bush isn’t an evil person, and is doing whet he thinks is right for America, but goes further to explain that President Bush is wrong for many of his ideas and opinions and for his faith in God. Anyway, Anyways, where do these people get their beliefs that they are right and everyone else who disagrees with them is wrong? Is the Lack of tangible evidence all it takes to say someone else is wrong?

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BIONICBATMAN

Monday, October 13, 2008 5:07 PM

Then Maher is lying. I have read plenty of interviews with him claiming that people who have faith have a mental illness. And in another said we should be in asylums cause of our faith. Quite the opposite of what he professed.

His movie is just an aetheist answer to Expelled. Notice how in the previews he isn't going to people who know the faith front and back. He goes to people on the street to make them look stupid.

This is a reply to Deadlockvictims first post

STORYMARK

Monday, October 13, 2008 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by BionicBatman:

His movie is just an aetheist answer to Expelled. Notice how in the previews he isn't going to people who know the faith front and back. He goes to people on the street to make them look stupid.

Well, he doesn't cut the commercials himself.

But many reviews (by those who have seen the movie, and aren't just bashing it for ideology) have pointed out that he does ask a broad spectrum of people questions, from the low-info rubes (some of which just are stupid) to Priests at the Vatican. And he covers more than just Christianity, touching on all the major religions.

Also, a big part of his piont is that many religious people don't know much about their religion. I have a cousin who was raised in a very Catholic family, but didn't know even the most basic bible stories, or any actual history. When we started talking about stuff, and it became clear that I (a person who is not religious in any way) knew more about the Bible than her, she asked he mother. Her Mother didn't really know, either. So my Mom, a Buddhist, ended up giving my cousin a bunch of bible study books, so she could at least pick up the basics.

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KWICKO

Monday, October 13, 2008 6:01 PM

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Anyways, where do these people get their beliefs that they are right and everyone else who disagrees with them is wrong? Is the Lack of tangible evidence all it takes to say someone else is wrong?

I think I could ask the same question of religious people, so many of whom are CONSTANTLY telling me that I'm wrong and that I'm going to hell for my non-belief.

So how is it that they're right and everyone who doesn't believe exactly like them is wrong?

Is some flowery fiction written down in a book all it takes to say someone else is wrong?

Mike

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RALLEM

Monday, October 13, 2008 6:57 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Anyways, where do these people get their beliefs that they are right and everyone else who disagrees with them is wrong? Is the Lack of tangible evidence all it takes to say someone else is wrong?

I think I could ask the same question of religious people, so many of whom are CONSTANTLY telling me that I'm wrong and that I'm going to hell for my non-belief.

So how is it that they're right and everyone who doesn't believe exactly like them is wrong?

Is some flowery fiction written down in a book all it takes to say someone else is wrong?

Mike

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