A blow for Palin fans everywhere....
POSTED BY: MrBlueSun
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 18:46
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Quote:LOL, look at this:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I think it’s your objectivity that is question here, as usual.
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Wasn't Monegan fired for poor performance?
Palin says so. She claimed in an Aug. 13 press conference that she was disappointed in budget issues, recruitment and Monegan's handling of rural bootlegging. On this last issue, however, there is a contradiction with statements she had made three weeks earlier, when she told local television station KTVA that she thought Monegan would make a great director of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board: "I recognize that Walt's interest in the area certainly could be put to good use," she said, "as he could concentrate exclusively on a couple of issues that were his interest, that being bootlegging and alcohol problems in rural Alaska."
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1840675,00.html
Your predilection for irrelevance aside Finn, this should stink from either side of the aisle.
Funny how when Obama skeletons are discovered, I'm able to acknowledge them as well, but the Repos are all teflon-like to you.
isall
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Finn and Auraptor, she was said to have abused her power by trying to apply pressure on the commisioner to fire Wooten,
It sounds like it was no slam dunk that she fired Monegan exclusively because of his refusal to comply with her demands. So the actual termination was not deemed outside of her right as governor. that doesn't change the fact that she acted inappropriately as Governor...I love how you guys intentionally weasel around the details.
Here are some more "non-issues," for people who apparently don't believe in issues when it comes to their candidates
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Source: AP
By GARANCE BURKE | Associated Press Writer
11:12 AM EDT, October 11, 2008
1 2 next WASILLA, Alaska (AP) _ The camera closes in on Sarah Palin speaking to young missionaries, vowing from the pulpit to do her part to implement God's will from the governor's office.
What she didn't tell worshippers gathered at the Wasilla Assembly of God church in her hometown was that her appearance that day came courtesy of Alaskan taxpayers, who picked up the $639.50 tab for her airplane tickets and per diem fees.
An Associated Press review of the Republican vice presidential candidate's record as mayor and governor reveals her use of elected office to promote religious causes, sometimes at taxpayer expense and in ways that blur the line between church and state.
Since she took state office in late 2006, the governor and her family have spent more than $13,000 in taxpayer funds to attend at least 10 religious events and meetings with Christian pastors, including Franklin Graham, the son of evangelical preacher Billy Graham, records show.
Read more:
http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-palin-...
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Quote:SOP for GOP.
Originally posted by Khyron:
Palin is found to have abused her powers, violated state ethics and lied about it.
Why am I not surprised that Republicans don't have a problem with that?
FYIisall
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Originally posted by Khyron:
Palin is found to have abused her powers, violated state ethics and lied about it.
Why am I not surprised that Republicans don't have a problem with that?
Edit: By the way, the McCain/Palin ticket now features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.
Don't even ask us go get into Joe's plagerism issues.
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Quote:I see, Obama associates himself with terrorists and racists, and you claim that a governor doing her job is just as bad? Sounds to me, like you’re desperate to find anything to equalize an egregious imbalance in character between Palin and Obama. Maybe you should just accept the fact that Obama isn’t really the person you want to support in this election.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Your predilection for irrelevance aside Finn, this should stink from either side of the aisle.
Funny how when Obama skeletons are discovered, I'm able to acknowledge them as well, but the Repos are all teflon-like to you.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:In other words, Palin had reasons independent of her personal views to fire Monegan. Case closed.
Originally posted by Righteous9:
Finn and Auraptor, she was said to have abused her power by trying to apply pressure on the commisioner to fire Wooten,
It sounds like it was no slam dunk that she fired Monegan exclusively because of his refusal to comply with her demands. So the actual termination was not deemed outside of her right as governor. that doesn't change the fact that she acted inappropriately as Governor...I love how you guys intentionally weasel around the details.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I'm very proud of Sarah Palin and Todd Palin and the way they acted during this entire thing. Set aside the politics for one minute if you can. Stop and think clearly. Think about her sister, her nephew, and her father as just American citizens with civil rights. There's a father, a State Trooper who is an abusive dangerous loose cannon. He abuses the wife, tasers his own 10 year old son, he threatens to kill his wife and Sarah's father. The Palin's excersized tremendous restraint in their efforts to have him removed for Public Safety concerns. By any measure of justice and safety that Commissioner who she fired was just an arrogant bastard. He worked for her. He was simply insubordinate in defying her. That Trooper thought his closeness to the Governor gave him special priviledge to behave like a lunatic, threaten to kill people, DECLARE HIMSELF PROUDLY TO BE UNTOUCHABLE & LAUGH, and batter his son. That is far greater an abuse of power than anything the Palins did. Now he's being portayed as something akin to a born-again Tookie Wilson, a Mr. Nice Guy or something. What a pathetic and dis-honest ploy. Now, back to politics. You Dems are salivating like diseased vultures over a fresh corpse because you feel this will hurt her & McCain. Twenty-four days is plenty of time for this to be absorbed by voters. Sarah and Todd will tell their story and we'll see how America responds. The depth of this Trooper's cruelness and neaderthalism went a tad beyond what NBC news calls "a messy divorce." If it had been the Clintons back in Arkansas, that Trooper would have been quietly picked up by guys in trenchcoats and shot in the woods and dumped in the river.
That's great, thx for the clarification on how bad this guy was - what a jerk!
And good for her that she'll have had some experience with people like that because in her new job I've heard that some of them feriners peoples that hate us are kind of tough to deal with too, like that guy from Iran - bet he'd taser his son! She'll set him straight! Or at least get him in the news papers where he'll be all embarrassed and and end up apologizin'! I bet them Iranies hate banjo music too!
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Quote:Exaggerate it why don't ya?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I see, Obama associates himself with terrorists and racists
Hey- did you take over Finn's IP, AURaptor??
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH FINN!?!?!?!
This is so beyond my comprehension...Finn used to be quite logical...
OUR NEXT ARGUMENT:
I say Ceiling Cat in the fourth!
isall
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Finn, Bill Ayers is a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, College of Education. There are a lot of people who have or have had contact with him, particularly, surprisingly, people in the field of education, as Obama did when he was working on education reform in Illinois. The Republican mayor Daley released this statement ( http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/mayor-daley-speaks-out/):
Quote:I have to be honest with you, Finn, I expected more from you. You're too smart to buy into the hate- and fear-mongering by the McCain camp.
Mayor Daley Speaks Out
STATEMENT OF MAYOR RICHARD M. DALEY REGARDING SENATOR BARACK OBAMA’S RELATIONSHIP WITH BILL AYERS:
There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about Washington politics. And one more example is the way Senator Obama’s opponents are playing guilt-by-association, tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.
I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our now nationally-renowned school reform program. He is a nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community.
I don’t condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles.
But if you think association-by-guilt is fair game, please explain to us why Todd Palin was a long-time member of the AIP.
Quote:Yes, he was, I'm also very confused, it's not like him ...
Originally posted by chrisisall:
This is so beyond my comprehension...Finn used to be quite logical...
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Finn,
you did it again,
and why do you keep doing it, really?
It is possible she had more than that reason to fire him. it is even possible that she fired him for other reasons entirely, according to the current findings,
those same findings that determined that she ABUSED HER POWER when trying to force the commisioner to cave to her demands.
Republicans, and Democrats together sided this way. CASE CLOSED.
why can't you at least be stand up enough to admit that she was ethically in the wrong there?
You aren't adressing it, you're just glossing over it.
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