IT FAILED.
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UPDATED: Thursday, October 2, 2008 21:24
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:See, nothing lasts forever, guess we've nothing to be concerned about, EVER, except the damn Liberals out to destroy this great nation...but if nothing lasts forever...
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hey lookie... the market is rebounding. Imagine that.
Hey wait AU...you logic falls apart...damn, like on EVERY post....how do you do that?Chrisisall
The 'trick' is in your own mind, Chrissy. That you can't follow simple logic is what confuses your widdle mind.
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Pelosi ALLOWED her commitee chairs to VOTE AGAINST it, so they could have political cover. She ALLOWED 95 Dems to vote NO.
Again, I think you're making Pelosi out to be much more powerful than you'd like to admit. And I agree with you that she IS a piece of shit, and I doubt she'll keep her spot, but the argument on the right seems to lend her more credence and power than she actually enjoys.
Was it Pelosi who ALLOWED two thirds of the Republicans to vote NO as well? Or was it one of those other two pieces of shit, McCain and Bush? They supposedly wanted this bailout as much as - if not more than - anyone, and they didn't get it BECAUSE of the lack of support from their own party. Why would they ALLOW their party to do that to them? It certainly makes the Republican leadership look awfully weak in the face of that little old housewife who never held a job in her life...
Mike
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Here we go again....
http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/30/news/economy/bailout_tuesday/index.htm
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Well Mikey, you certainly know your stuff - yeah that's what he picked up.
The Saiga stuff looks pretty damn nice, and apparently they got a 12Gauge auto with a Kalishnikov action that looks a damn lot like Vera.
(is that what Vera really is, I wonder ?)
Know my stuff? Nah, I'm just learning. Trying to take it all in. And these drums were just a subject of much discussion in the last few days, since one of the larger sporting goods chains seems to have gotten their hands on a container-load of them! They're all gone now, though. Looks like I missed out. :(
Not a big deal, though, since I have no real need for such things - but they WOULD be sweet to have if they happened to come along for the right price.
As for the S12 shotgun, it SEEMS like a ridiculous idea at first blush, but by all accounts, it actually works amazingly well. Some of the guys who like them are getting grief because they're entering shotgun matches with them, and the semi-auto nature of them is seen by some as "unsporting".
Like any of the other Saigas, they used to be cheap (inexpensive, I mean, not poorly made), but now not so much. Nowadays, they run $550 or more IF you can find them in stock, and if you do find them in stock, don't think - BUY. They won't be there after you've thought about and gone back to pick one up. They sell out QUICK.
Oh, and stay away from Wraithmaker and everything they touch. They supposedly have some kind of drum mags for the S12, but I've heard nothing but horror stories about them. Not a one of them has ever seemed to fit or feed correctly, and they steadfastly insist that it's always the gun that's the problem!
And seriously, if you need more than 5 or 10 rounds of 12 gauge, something has gone horribly wrong already!
I don't own any of the Saiga shotguns - yet. But I've certainly gained respect for them from talking to some of the many happy owners who've happily bought 2, 3, or more of them for themselves. I'd like to pick one up at some point, but we'll have to see...
Meanwhile, I'd say get that ugly little ChiCom monster out to the range and try it out. AKs may come in some of the ugliest, cheapest-looking (well, maybe cheapest-looking after the Hi-Point Carbine...) variants known to man, but even a bad one seems to be more reliable than a good AR-15/M-16. So take it out and run some ammo through it, and I bet you'll be surprised.
Mike
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Oh, and Frem?
Good call on Vera! Some searching reveals this:
http://www.fireflywiki.org/Firefly/CallahanFullboreAutolock
Apparently she WAS built up off a Saiga-12. Rather heavily modified, as you can see. The overfolding stock is an interesting touch, but I think I'd prefer a nice side-folder or an underfolder - IF it allowed for shooting from the folded position. Just in case, y'know, of a Zombie attack or something...
Mike
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Well Mikey, you certainly know your stuff - yeah that's what he picked up.
The Saiga stuff looks pretty damn nice, and apparently they got a 12Gauge auto with a Kalishnikov action that looks a damn lot like Vera.
(is that what Vera really is, I wonder ?)
Since a rifle wouldn't do me much good, that Saiga-12 is actually looking pretty good to me, since slam-firing my M1897 is a fairly athletic procedure and I happen to be getting a bit long in the tooth for that sorta thing, yanno.
Yes...Vera was based on a SAIGA 12...She's been so heavily modded as to be virtually unrecognizable...Virtually.
We've had at least one prior thread about that :
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=13&t=33594
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O2TB:
Sorry, I had no idea. Learn somethin' new every day (if you're lucky).
Thanks for the link; I hadn't seen that thread before.
Mike
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
O2TB:
Sorry, I had no idea. Learn somethin' new every day (if you're lucky).
Thanks for the link; I hadn't seen that thread before.
Mike
No worries...And , no need for apology...
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Some of the guys who like them are getting grief because they're entering shotgun matches with them, and the semi-auto nature of them is seen by some as "unsporting".
Sporting ain't got jack to do with it - if I point a weapon at something I damn well mean to obliterate it, and I follow the three rules of proper target service, you know.
1. Bring a gun.
2. Bring ENOUGH gun.
3. If effect is not immediate, use MORE gun.
I'd love to take credit for that, but actually I picked that up from a former USS Iowa crewman, who by nature of his job had firm experience with "enough gun".
For certain reasons however, I don't have to wait or search, if I want something of that nature, it's only a matter of whether I am willing to shell out the cashy money for it, which at this point in time I ain't... but let's just say my xmas stockin is gonna need a reinforced bottom, eh ?
-Frem
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Originally posted by rue:
"Hey lookie... the market is rebounding. Imagine that."
Yes, and all without a rich-people's care-package. Imagine that.
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Silence is consent.
Only in response to being told that the bailout will happen did people bite.
I thought GE was a cheap buy and didn't do my due diligence before buying it. There into everything. ... why didn't I think to see if they had a financial department? Whoops..... US Bancorp is the only financial I want to own. I sell it high and buy it low. It was a responsible bank and will come out of this better than most other banks in the world, let alone the US.
That being said, my GE was down about 20% yesterday and about 10% today.... we'll see what happens. I'm holding till I break even and then selling it when it's back in black. I'm hoping that the euphoria of a bailout will even make me some money by the end of the day.
This market is definately not for the timid. I could have been the guy that I bought from on the bottom and sold to on the top..... (I still can be that guy, but this ain't an impulse game, so unless we all lose, I think I'll be alright)
Good luck to you Hero. There's no way that anybody could ever guess where we're going more than a few days ahead at this point, what with all the blatant Government manipulation going on.
BTW people. I don't feel the need to defend my position on minorities anymore. Anything I said before wasn't racist, but it was fact. There were a lot of white people that bought too much house. They were the types that should have been buying the 250,000 houses when they were buying 500,000 houses. That's the upscale forclosure stories you hear about all the time, all the way on up to dumbass Jim McMahon.
The sad truth is, there are laws against discrimination, and this required the banks to take on, at the very least, a certain percentage of bad loans by minorities. Sure, you and I all know that the real financial tests were busted out more often against minorities, but there were plenty who got in that lied like everyone else about what they really could afford, and there was a law stating that the banks had to do it. It's all a game of percentages. I'm sure they knew exactly how many real financial checks and denials of minorites they could get away with every month. Some banks chose to be more responsible with those numbers, while others were completely reckless, assuming that houses would jump in value 10% a year forever.
Even my US Bancorp has some bad loans. I'd love to get a demographic study of who owes those bad loans. I'm sure that I'd never get to see that info though. It would probably implicate them for being "racist" when they were just being responsible.
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