Do you feel like you failed?
POSTED BY: InpedendantLissa
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 14:11
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Very true, ArtCat. My organization is growing every month!
We, Austin Browncoats, turned our fan power into a 501(c)(3) Non-Profit Organization, and will continue to do good works with or without a second big damn movie. So believe me, I do not think we've failed. We took our love for the 'verse that Joss created and have done amazing things for charity. Sometimes the end result isn't what you predicted, or even wanted. And sometimes it's even better. What we're doing now is better than a second movie. We're making the world a better place - one shindig at a time. And that makes us mighty.
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I have only come to the 'verse in this last year so I have not been at this as long as some of you. I have enjoyed and participated in the ongoing process that is Firefly/Serenity. I have spread the word to others and made many friends.
In my case I do not feel that any of my efforts have failed. Would I love to get another movie...hell yes....will I keep flying......damned straight I will.
gentle journey all,
twilight seeker
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Artcat summed it up pretty well! I don't frequent the big boards much these days, but I'm crazy active in one or two smaller ones... and they are still growing...
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I also am more of a lurker.
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One of the most common mistakes is to try to associate the true size of a fandom with how active the larger messageboards are. Active messageboard participants are only a fraction of the overall numbers. As evidenced by the tons of people that I meet at Cons or Browncoat events who are fans of the verse and have never been on the boards.
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Actually, after the last time this site went down, Haken himself stated that although new people are joining regularly, more, far more people are leaving. He stated that there has been a massive drop in activity on this site. Also, I've noticed the same thing on other forums that are FF/S or Sci-Fi or have some little corner to discuss it.
Sorry, but what you're saying just isn't so.
I disagree. I've been a member here for a long time, but I've posted maybe twice (including this one) in the last 18 months. Does that mean I'm not a Browncoat? Not in the slightest. I'm more vested in the fandom than I ever was when I was active on thie board, but I have the 76th Battalion, and its boards, filling up my time.
And the drop off on the larger boards is to be expected. Spend five minutes in the Real Word board and you'll see what I mean. Once a board gets really big, you run into more personality clashing and bruised egos than most people want to deal with, so they either just lurk or leave entirely. Hell, you get that on the smaller boards, but its ten times worse on the bigger ones.
And as others have said, go to a Con. The amount of Browncoats at D*Con this year dwarfed the number just last year. And there were Jedi, Stormtroopers, Colonial Marines and Colonial Fleet wearing Jayne hats. And when the 76th was in uniform, we were recognized, and more than a few of us were approached by people wanting to talk about FF/S.
We haven't failed. We, as a fandom, have done all we can. Ultimately, the decision was not ours to make, and the ones left to make that decision made the one they thought was right. We may not agree with it, but we aren't in their shoes and don't know all the information.
I hope one day they'll revisit the 'verse we love, but I'm not expecting them to.
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I went to D*Con (my first Con BTW and going back next year!) and couldn't get into any of the Firefly/Serenity panels because there were so many people. The Shindig was by far the largest party and I saw 'coats every where!
Lots of us have gone on to do other things that are associated with Firefly/Serenity. Right now I'm helping with the Raleigh CSTS showing in June.
We've gone from one night to two and our Christmas party will be at a showing of "Serenity" Dec 4. I expect a full house.
I'm also involved with KidsNeedToRead, Nathan Fillion's literacy charity. Come and join us at www.kidsneedtoread.org.
http://fireflyfaninnc.livejournal.com/
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good posting topic and a very good question
other than the fox fiasco, i don't think anyone has failed. i think that this is a very special franchise that sadly happens to be a cult (albeit a pretty darn popular one!) thing, and that serenity, despite being a movie of exquisite beauty and care (least that's how i viewed it) just didn't stand a chance of being a commercial hit in the conservative, formulaic movie industry.
like i said, the only fail, and it was a doozy, was on the part of the idiots at fox. yeah, it does sadden me to think that realistically, the chances are great that there won't be anymore films, but overall, this franchise has been an artistic triumph and a pretty darn tenacious commercial one (escaping the jaws of commercial death by having a canceled tv show continued as a major feature film- props to mary parent!).
think of it this way- there's like 14 hours of scifi storytelling perfection there for our viewing enjoyment!
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@Artcat81:
You're making two assumptions that you can't really make:
1) That the increase in local growth and/or the people that stay in contact is the same in number as the decline in on-line activity, and,
2) Every (or most) local groups are like yours.
The way Haken stated things left no uncertainty about the level in drop off. As in, unless your local group has exploded over the years, you can't assume (1).
It is trivial why (2) can't be assumed.
Now, I'd like more quality FF just like everyone else. But, the likeliness of that happening is pretty much nil. Don't let a lot of people here telling you different delude you into thinking that. Because, without massive amounts of people spending massive amounts of money proving the financial viability of a sequel to the movie, we aren't getting anything.
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Assumptions that can't be made:
1) That everyone (or a lot of people) is like you.
2) That I'm questioning people being Browncoats or not.
3) That I don't know about RWD even though I post there (I've done so recently actually).
4) That you can base an opinion of how healthy a fandom is as a whole based on the presence of the extremists (e.g. at Cons).
And actually, we have failed. You see, an actually active fandom doesn't just wear out there DVDs, etc. They produces content. Now you're going to point to the Blue Sun Room and say there you go, right? But, that isn't what I'm talking about. The fan fic/pics/etc produced here is nothing compared to an actual active community. The various web pages scattered across the net are nothing. What is actually needed to prove an active fandom is not waiting for those bit products to be produced, but to make it ourselves. Starwars, Wing Commander, and Star Trek are great examples of communities that are actually active. They have fan produced mods for games, and even entirely new games totally fan produced! They have books written in there respective 'verses among others things. What does FF/S have? QMX? The effectively cancelled game from MV? A few comics? What else? Nothing.
I've said it before and it bares repeating: If you sit around waiting for others to produce something for you effectively doing nothing, that's exactly what you'll get.
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"We don't fear the reaper"
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