More Subtle yet interesting show observations - post yours

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UPDATED: Friday, December 19, 2008 17:29
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It may be that Early had been investigating the crew for quite a while, generating profiles etc etc.

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True, or there may have been a history.



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Originally posted by ShinySahara:
he said to her that the first episode which I think he was referring to Serenity has incredible insight on Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. (PTSD) My Councilor said to me that he said he would like to discuss this issue with her, and then I think she said that he told her he was thinking of making all of the Doctors and Councilors at the V.A watch that episode so it could be studied and discussed.

Will you come back and tell us what they said? I'm getting my Master's in Social Work with a focus in PTSD and disaster recovery, and so I would be VERY interested! Thanks!

And getting back to the topic of the thread, I don't know if someone pointed this out already, but... So Saffron has a poison or somethin' mixed into her gloss so that when she kisses people, they're knocked out, you know, the Goodnight Kiss, I think it was. How come she doesn't poison herself with it? Even when one has lip gloss on, it's still hard not to lick one's lips anyway, I think it's even unconscious. So she would have licked it herself, and would have knocked herself out.
I know that it wouldn't have helped the story, but still.


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I was talking to another coworker whom I lent one of my Firefly DVD sets and discussed the PTSD issue with and Bob said that it probably is in the beginning with Bender who was unable to take any action and was frozen with fear. Bob then mentioned the same thing may have been responsible in Saving Private Ryan when the interpreter froze while is teammate was being killed in the tower by the German Trooper, and I said it is possible but I always thought of that as cowardice. I then told Bob that Nathan Fillion was in Saving Private Ryan, and he understood that he was one of the wrong Private Ryans.



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Originally posted by rallem:
I think Book may have been the potentially most explosive and dynamic character on the show because he was who he said he was and so much more. I was not too disapointed with his loss in Serenity because he had so much of a mysterious past that even dead Ron Glass could be back to do lots of background episodes if they ever were made.

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That would be interesting. Book doesn't seem to have any martial training as Early took him out way to easy.

Early vs the Believer. Now thats a fight I would want to see. Now if they could some how fit Jet Li (Chinese not US films version of him) into that fight somehow that would be stunning .

Hey, actually that could almost work after all China is one of the remaining super powers in this verse. (didn't know that until recently)

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Originally posted by Lurkalot:

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Originally posted by rallem:
I think Book may have been the potentially most explosive and dynamic character on the show because he was who he said he was and so much more. I was not too disapointed with his loss in Serenity because he had so much of a mysterious past that even dead Ron Glass could be back to do lots of background episodes if they ever were made.

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That would be interesting. Book doesn't seem to have any martial training as Early took him out way to easy.

Early vs the Believer. Now thats a fight I would want to see. Now if they could some how fit Jet Li (Chinese not US films version of him) into that fight somehow that would be stunning .

Hey, actually that could almost work after all China is one of the remaining super powers in this verse. (didn't know that until recently)

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I think in the fight between Early and Book, it was simply a case of surprise with overwhelming force, which leads to my thinking that Maybe Early had some prior knowledge with Book. I think if Early could launch that same attack on anyone else in the ship though, they would have gone down just as fast. jmho



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Why Saffron was not affected by the poison on her lips was explained in the episode when Simon said that she placed the poison on a seal.



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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I always liked in War Stories when Inara shows her client out, Jayne says "I'll be in my bunk" and Zoe comes out with "Jayne, grab your weapon". However, the script makes it clear this is to be obvious (to everybody but Jayne), so we can't really call it subtle.

Also, int the pilot, I've been mostly puzzled when at the end, Mal says to Simon that, among other things, he ain't weak, and that ain't nothing - I didn't see how he would be referring to Simon's physical strength, or strong doctoring skills, or strong fighting ability, but I didn't conjure a whole lot about it. Now it dawns on me that Mal was probably referring to Simon's rescuing River, defying the Alliance, saving an innocent - that is what Mal sees as strength, and that perhaps Simon is human enough, despite his upbringing and social status, that he and Mal can work out the sharing of mutual space for a while.

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I know this response is for a post from almost a year ago, but I had to. I just rewatched the Pilot a few nights ago(for the 4,378th time ;P), and that thought hit me too, in regards to Mal viewing Simon as 'not weak' by the end of the episode, here are my thoughts...: Simon took two tremendous punches from the Captain in that episode alone. Not only was Simon NOT knocked unconcious, nor seriously bloodied, he had nary a tear in his eye. Mal found out that Simon can take one hell of a punch, and get right back up again! Kudos to the observation on inner strength as well, Simon is very strong and heroic in that respect too! I'm sure all of it factored in to Mal's growing respect for him. I just love the fact that Simon actually gets to finally deck Mal back on the movie! Paybacks are hell, ain't they?

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I don't know if this has been posted before, but something interesting that I've found: River is ripping into some Blue Sun labeled packages with extreme predjudice on "Shindig", and ranting about how 'They're the ones who take you', 'they're the ones who reach in and do it..' Then on "Ariel", she up and slashes Jayne's chest right across the Blue Sun logo on the front of his shirt! It seems to show less anger at Jayne, and more anger towards the Blue Sun Corp., doesn't it? Apologies if this has been observed already :), I thought it was a pretty dang neat connection between the two!
Also, the 'blurring of the image' to indicate a certain aspect of what Inara's client was doing on "Serenity" (pilot), according to Joss's commentary..., ..ahem, yeah.. the image kinda blurred on "Objects in Space" when River was observing Wash and Zoe making out up on the bridge.., then River *stumbles* around the corner to go to the cargo bay. Yeah, wheww, sorry... dirty minded? Me..? Nahh! I'll be in my bunk. :P

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Originally posted by rallem:
"Why Saffron was not affected by the poison on her lips was explained in the episode when Simon said that she placed the poison on a seal."


But the seal was on her lips, wasn't it? I like the theory that she had built up a tolerance for it, like in Princess Bride. That is totally in keeping with her character.



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