Obama likes hot sweaty man sex
POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 00:36
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Believe it or not, Kirk - PN's actually quite capable of rational discussion if the topic interests him enough, and there is indeed a point to some of the stuff he rants on about.
And it's also not like some of our other posters haven't pulled some stunts in their time, Kaneman, Jongstraw, etc - but do actively participate in discussions now, and I'll stand to the right to do so no matter how I disagree with em or not.
Try not to die of shock, but in fact I suggested an attempt to reason before the banstick, although the choice is ultimately up to Haken cause it's his turf.
I may not be very nice, but ponder this - standing up for rights is fine and dandy, but ultimately meaningless unless you're willing to do it for everyone, friend or foe.
-F
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Believe it or not, Kirk - PN's actually quite capable of rational discussion if the topic interests him enough, and there is indeed a point to some of the stuff he rants on about.
I may not be very nice, but ponder this - standing up for rights is fine and dandy, but ultimately meaningless unless you're willing to do it for everyone, friend or foe.
-F
I have trashed PN few times lately, but I've never called him a troll or anyone else here for that matter. Don't set yourself up on a pedestal, you're the one that is the first to come to PN's defense every time someone calls him a troll and wants him baned. I actually enjoy most of Pn's posts, but when he attacked a 17 year old pregnant girl because her mom is running for VP, I thought that was a little too much. Even after that I don't want him banned. Whozit more than once expressed his desire not to be banned, but instead of giving suggestions as to what exactly you and others thought he was doing wrong, you all just grabbed your torches and ran him out of town. Whozit was right, he would have never been persecuted if his comedy was about Pres. Bush. There's a huge majority of liberals here, and in typical fashion they want to silence those they disagree with, they just saw a easy target in Whozit because of his approach.
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Quote:You really are missing the point here. All this has nothing to do with what side whozit is on - his many, many threads contain absolutely nothing but connections to his own web site, and that is spam, and that makes him trollish.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Whozit was right, he would have never been persecuted if his comedy was about Pres. Bush. There's a huge majority of liberals here, and in typical fashion they want to silence those they disagree with, they just saw a easy target in Whozit because of his approach.
And I need to clarify my own stance, since I assumed it was obvious though I see now that it wasn't at all and sorry about that: I don't think whozit has earned banning. I'm lobbying for his spam threads to go to troll country.
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Originally posted by Kirkules:Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Believe it or not, Kirk - PN's actually quite capable of rational discussion if the topic interests him enough, and there is indeed a point to some of the stuff he rants on about.
I may not be very nice, but ponder this - standing up for rights is fine and dandy, but ultimately meaningless unless you're willing to do it for everyone, friend or foe.
-F
I have trashed PN few times lately, but I've never called him a troll or anyone else here for that matter. Don't set yourself up on a pedestal, you're the one that is the first to come to PN's defense every time someone calls him a troll and wants him baned. I actually enjoy most of Pn's posts, but when he attacked a 17 year old pregnant girl because her mom is running for VP, I thought that was a little too much. Even after that I don't want him banned. Whozit more than once expressed his desire not to be banned, but instead of giving suggestions as to what exactly you and others thought he was doing wrong, you all just grabbed your torches and ran him out of town. Whozit was right, he would have never been persecuted if his comedy was about Pres. Bush. There's a huge majority of liberals here, and in typical fashion they want to silence those they disagree with, they just saw a easy target in Whozit because of his approach.
Hello,
You are mistaken. Whozit could have spammed us with the following statement:
"Whozit has big ears and likes hot sweaty man sex."
And I would have hated his disruptions just as much. Because posting that crap all day does not contribute to anything but my annoyance.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Yup, and as far as I know, Whozit hasn't been "banned" at all - he just went off in a snit.
Okay, so he and PN both tend to post lots of links - but go click on Whozit's "whozitreport.bs" links and see where they go. They're just blind links, they're nothing.
And at least PN *tries* to offer some relevant comment in amongst all his links.
Do I think Whozit should be banned? Nope. I think he should be *warned*, and the useless blind link posts of his moved to Troll Country, and if that doesn't work to put him on the straight and narrow, THEN he should be banned.
I'm a fairly open-minded guy, and I've got a remarkably high tolerance for "offensive" speech; I don't know that I've ever seen anything here in RWED that I'd deem "ban-worthy" - and I've seem some remarkably vile things said here. Even said quite a few of them myself. And I've never been banned, tagged as offensive, or even so much as warned.
This is THE most open board I've been around, by a fair piece.
But, that being said, this is a PRIVATE web site, open to members only. As such, your First Amendment rights don't really count for much in here. If you'd like to have a substantive discussion about free speech, feel... well, feel FREE to start it up.
Mike
This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Also, if you'll look around a bit, you'll notice that Whozit is still alive and well, and has posted three times today.
So why all the fuss about him being banned, when it clearly hasn't happened?
Looks like he took the warnings he was given and has been born again hard.
M
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, if you'll look around a bit, you'll notice that Whozit is still alive and well, and has posted three times today.
So why all the fuss about him being banned, when it clearly hasn't happened?
Looks like he took the warnings he was given and has been born again hard.
M
That's been my point all along. It was oblivious to me and anyone else except those blinded by their Obama love that Whozit is a cool guy/gal that just did'nt understand the rules and how they are arbitrarily applied around here. Turns out anything goes as long as you're one of the insiders who assumes to know what the administrator of the site wants or expects. This was all about Whozit walking on you alls perceived turf and nothing else. He/She caused you no inconvenience and disrupted this site in no way, other than spoiling your ideal. That's one of the reasons so few post in the RWED, they don't know what the rules are until Frem makes them up.
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Common Sense, Kirk - apply it for once.
Nobody had a problem with the guy specifically, they had a problem with the nonparticipative spamming of the same meaningless crap over and over, something which anyone with half a brain knows isn't really welcome on any forum anywhere.
Your own political zealotry has blinded you to the actual issue here and it makes you look utterly ridiculous when it's patently obvious your only reason for defending that behavior is a mutually shared political hatred.
Did it somehow escape you that PN busts on Obama for much the same thing Whozit did, only he makes an actual case out of it with accusations and statements from Sinclair and others, linked content and amusing (and yes at times offensive) comments and photos ?
This had jack shit to do with whatever Whozit was saying cause in essence he wasn't saying anything at all, just spamming - which is considered vandalism in any forum worth the name.
But you seem to not get that, cause your own petty personal and political hatred has gotten in the way of your reasoning, no matter how smart you are otherwise.
I suggest you take a step back, step on that hatred for a minute and take a good look at what others have said in this thread, cause I really do believe you have misunderstood the entire argument in the first place.
Emotion is a damn poor substitute for intellect within the reasoning process.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Emotion is a damn poor substitute for intellect within the reasoning process.
-Frem
You know Frem, constantly telling everyone that you're smarter that them doesn't make it true. I do believe it is an excellent brainwashing tactic though. If you repeat anything enough times some people will begin to believe it.
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You just don't get it Kirk...
I was implying that you're quite smart enough to have known that, only that you were too pissed to be fully rational about it.
And I can tell, too, cause in any other case you'd not be fool enough to stand here and keep buying rope from me, like you're doing.
You seem pretty determined to paint me as evil as of late - what's the matter, some Anarchist steal your woman out from under ya ? run over your dog ?
Or are you specifically angry at me for hammering cracks in the foundations of your worldview ?
Cause something's eatin ya, man - and it's real obvious.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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