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Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
I'm glad to see the liberals finally disclosing their source of talking points. I would have though the DNC but Pravda doesn't surprise me. Maybe Obama could use that Pravda article in a television commercial against Palin sense he's given up running against McCain and is now running against Palin.



Yes, much as I haven't been a bit surprised to find that the right-wing loons are getting their talking points from Hitler, Stalin, and other notable fascists. "A lie repeated often enough becomes true" is but one of their lessons learned from their heroes.



You are wrong again as usual Kwicko. It's the Dems that get their ideas from the Stalin and Hitler, just look at the 1968 gun control act, it's almost an exact copy of the 1938 gun control act that the Nazis used to disarmed the Jews. I'm sure Stalin would be proud of the Dems current effort to stifle free speech by bringing back the "fairness doctrine". If the Dems cant win in the free market of ideas they just win by shutting down the speech they don't agree with. Isn't that what the USSR/Russia have been doing with Pravda our entire lifetimes.

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Isn't that what the USSR/Russia have been doing with Pravda our entire lifetimes.

Republicans with Fox News would have been a better comparison. If any party in America is guilty of stifling debate it's the Republicans. Maybe the Democrats try, but it's the Republicans that succeed.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:28 PM

I've always found it an irony that Pravdas actual journalism is in fact significantly better than our mainstream papers these days, who mostly do naught other the copy/paste each others copy/pastes of official press releases and never bother any more to actually investigate cause they might wind up like Amy Goodman.

And while I don't discount that certain elements of the Democrat agenda do match with ole Adolph's brand of National Socialism...

No one else seems to have the guts to point out that much of the Republican agenda matches Mussolini's, do they ?

When you view it from a distance, the end points of either fucking ideology are close enough that they appear as a single dot to me.

It's the same Feudo-Fascist-Federalist crap, pushed by the same type of shitheels, that's been going on since this founding of this nation, and barring a real change in our social and ethical standards and mores, these people are gonna be there, in numbers, as long as politics exist.

And even if that real change occurs, they'll still be there, just in smaller numbers.

But without gullible, cowardly little milquetoasts who run and cling to them in fear of the pathetic boogeymen they use to try and frighten us into compliance, they got nothing.

They're just one more loudmouth asshole with a "plan" - and absolutely powerless to carry it out without the sympathisers and collaborators required to put it into action.

Taking them seriously is the first foolish step in falling under their dominion, and wiser folk refuse to do it - and for that alone, this Pravda editorial is worthy of respect.

For mine own, I am angry at those people with a "plan" sure - but they are what they are, that ain't gonna change no time soon...

But I am bitterly furious at the fools who give them power, like Saruman to Sauron, like Wormtongue to Saruman, the people who cause untold destruction by being the arm of that power out of fear and cowardice combined with plain gullible stupidity.

They are the bullets in tyranny's gun, and I have no respect for them whatever, and never have.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, September 19, 2008 4:24 AM

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I guess Chuck Hagel must be a comunist-liberal



Hagel neither a Liberal or Conservative, he's a political opportunist. His positions are only based on which way the wind is blowing.



How would you characterize Phil Gramm? Political opportunist? Positions based solely on which way the winds blow?


Mike

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 6:17 PM

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How would you characterize Phil Gramm? Political opportunist? Positions based solely on which way the winds blow?




Seems like when someone asks a tough question, a lot of people just disappear and refuse to even address it, much less answer it.

I noticed Hero did the same thing when questioned about the Palins dodging an investigation that they originally "welcomed".

Curious.

EC


If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 6:23 PM

Rapo does the same with the economy and the UN approving the Iraq invasion, Finn does the same with the Iraq WMD being an imminent threat (or any of the other contradictions he manages to drag around in his mental toolkit.)

If you never recognize your mistakes, how do you ever learn?

Never, apparently!

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:02 PM

It's a sad day when the Russian media is more accurate than our castrated media mafia.

Oh that's right, the "alternative" (real) media is USA has been 100% accurate on these points since the beginning.

www.republicbroadcasting.org
www.gcnlive.com
www.wtprn.com





"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:04 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:


How would you characterize Phil Gramm? Political opportunist? Positions based solely on which way the winds blow?




Seems like when someone asks a tough question, a lot of people just disappear and refuse to even address it, much less answer it.

I noticed Hero did the same thing when questioned about the Palins dodging an investigation that they originally "welcomed".

Curious.

EC


I hate to keep reminding everyone that I'm not a Republican, and don't feel the need to condemn/condone the actions of every Republican. Chuck Hagel has always just kind of pissed me off because he's so undependable. I understand that he comes from a relatively poor state that leans to the liberal side on some issues. He probably pretty well represents the views of his constituency, but just become a Democrat if your a lib, quit pretending to be a conservative. I would say the same to those in the Republican party that want Joe Lieberman to switch to the GOP, why would they want someone in their party that's a complete lib on everything but the war.

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 11:55 PM

I think what I'm trying to get at is that we tend to view those who change parties and allegiances to OUR side as "having seen the light", while those who change to the OTHER side are branded traitors, turncoats, and political opportunists.

We all seem to do it, myself included. I remember when Phil Gramm switched parties, but apparently no one else does. He did it in the early 80s, when it was a political opportunity to ride on Reagan's popularity.

Please show me Chuck Hagel's liberal-democrat voting record, if you could. I know he broke ranks with the Republicans over the war, but does that truly earn him the "political opportunist" label? I know a bit about Nebraska, having spent plenty of summers there, and having strong family roots there, and Nebraskans are FAR from "liberal". They tend to speak out pretty strongly against welfare, and you're in for an ass-whoopin' if you point out that farm subsidies are one of our largest forms of welfare.

Mike





This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

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