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Why Isn't Heart Of Gold Ranked Higher By Browncoats?

POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Monday, September 22, 2008 00:07
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Friday, September 19, 2008 6:00 PM

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Originally posted by JakeWolfe:
IMO... I just can't stand OiS... I don't know why, but it's way too... I dunno... River, I've no other way to explain it... it's too artsy/crazy for me... HOG on the other hand, I absolutely LOVE!!! Then again, any of the episodes that show the love that Mal and Inara have for each-other, but don't ever quite get around to showing, I love as well

OiS and OOG are actually two of my least favorite episodes *hides* please don't kill me!!!

Whozit could never hurt a fellow Browncoat.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 6:45 PM

The thing about BUSHWHACKED is it shows Mal's personality. When push comes to shove, he riskc his own life to save others, even if they are Alliance. TO me, that is very important.

The lives of others is more important than his personal beliefs or politics.

HOG is wonderfully written in all respects and does deserve a better showing in popularity.

Train Job was okay but had little conflict to define the characters, just a hoot to watch.

Our Mrs Reynolds was great with the twist that came with the kiss. Beautifully acted.

Objects in Space was fantastic. Yes, it was different but the introspection and psychotic behavior of Jubal really made it. Having River come into her own as a planner, an Operative in training if you will, was the high point. The last words were great.



"He takes so much looking after."

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Friday, September 19, 2008 7:06 PM

I appreciate everyone's response to my thread question. You guys and gals are the best!

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Friday, September 19, 2008 8:06 PM

You know, when I watch the first half of HoG I think: omg, this is so entertaining, why don't I like this episode more? And then the whole showdown with Burgess happens. The gun out of power, the scooter being run down by a horse... that part is just damned near unbearable to me. Which is sad, cause there's so much other good stuff. Like you say, the Mal/Inara interaction is beyond priceless.

In fact, there's so much other good stuff that HoG certainly is worth watching 50+ times, bad fight scene or not. The Message, however... apart from a completely fabulous opening with some insanely good lines ("They don't like it when you shoot at `em" and "Why'd you guys order a dead guy?"), it's just weak. Plots holes right and left. I can't buy into it.

Hmm. But I'd still rather watch The Message than, say, any bit of high rated shows like Lost. Or American Idol. Or Friends. Or... well, you get the idea.


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Friday, September 19, 2008 8:24 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
The gun out of power, the scooter being run down by a horse...

So, uh, where was the part you didn't like?
The only part in any ep I don't groove to is the guy who Reaverfies himself in Bushwacked, I don't think he got Paxed...

Inara crying in HOG just did me in...*snif*

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Friday, September 19, 2008 8:51 PM

For me there isn't one epsiode that I didn't like, or that didn't "live up to" the other eps. Of course it would be unfair not to point out that, with only 14 episodes total and no more coming, we've watch each one a million times and disected them to the nth degree. As such every episode is harder - if not impossible - to separate from the (amazing) whole.

So whether it is a few great lines, or a character-defining scene, or just a bit of heart-felt interaction between the characters, you can't really take any one episode away and still have the same, great sum total.

...or, at least that's how I feel.

Just for the record though, I really like HoG too, Jongsstraw. It's bitter-sweet because of the Mal/Inara ending, but that scene at the end is a defining moment in the series for me.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 10:09 PM

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Inara crying in HOG just did me in...*snif*
Lord, ain't that the truth? I am so bummed about that - Morena's got acting chops that we barely got to see. So much goodness was in store for us in that dept... *bitter*

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So, uh, where was the part you didn't like?
OK, the gun looked chintzy to start with, and as for running out of charge... while I understand there might be a good Joss-joke like "ha-ha funny high tech stuff ain't worth a damn if you don't charge it" tried for there, it just didn't work for me. Because what kind of bad guy is Rance is he can't even remember to charge his weapon? Is this the badass that Mal wanted to run away from? Really? Bah. I don't believe it. Rance Burgess didn't do that, the writer forced it on him.

Then - a horse outrunning a hovercraft? Besides the fact that the shot just doesn't look realistic at all, can't a super rich guy who pockets the cash from an entire world and is really into fancy toys afford a hovercraft with more than 1 horsepower? Again, out of character and contrived. Sorry. I love Joss dearly, but that scene is just lame.

Go on, throw the rotten fruit. It's Friday and I have a beer in my hand, I can take it.

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Friday, September 19, 2008 10:35 PM

Lets just say that every episode is much better than any thing else on TV right now.

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:09 AM

Youi got that right. There isn't a network show out there that would compare with what onyonew might consider the weakest of FIREFLY.

None at all.

With this line there is so much said with so very few words! Awesome!



INARA
I wouldn't say I'm entirely okay.
I'm a little appalled at her taste.

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Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:34 AM

Yes, I too suffer from extreme bias with regard to Firefly, and even though from a technical production standpoint Heart of Gold has a lot of cheese and boo boos, the fact remains;

- It is Firefly.

"Heart of Gold" is like the cutest little kid who you can't help but love, who got into mommy's lipstick and smeared it all over his face. You see him and laugh. You pick him up and hug him. You wipe off the lipstick, and next time you take him to the store with you, you drive out in the middle of nowhere and leave him there. Accelerating as you watch him in the rearview mirror, running to catch you.

Had Firefly continued for many more seasons, it is likely that Heart of Gold may be one of the few episodes that people skip more often in the DVD boxed set as they sit back and eat their Milk Duds and slurp their Coke Zero. But, we were short changed. We were cheated because God hates us. We are hell's children, and all we have are the very few, shiny, and cherished little episodes that the Great Christmas Pumpkin saw fit to give to us, and every scene, syllable, and nuance is precious. So precious in fact, that even the possible lesser of all the tiny few episodes we have is still cool as a cow pie in winter. Why?

- It is Firefly.

That's ruttin' why.

You're welcome JONGSSTRAW.

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