Senerity Update from Dark Horizons
POSTED BY: Poetic4U
UPDATED: Sunday, September 5, 2004 11:58
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I have faith in Joss that he can fit all the great stuff in Firefly into a movie
But like so many have said, a series is best because it allows for more msytory romance, character devilment, and climax
We just got to have a little faith
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"Why ya'll order a dead guy for?"
"You can't take the sky from me..well really you can...but..."
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Originally posted by Shutty24:
Hey - just signed up to this thing, and I have slightly jolier news for you guys than seems to have been indicated on here so far.
I was at Starfury:Fusion in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago, and what Nathan Fillion actually said about the deal between Fox and Universal was that they would be unable to produce a tv series FOR A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD. The hint that he (and Summer Glau and Jewel Staite) seemed to be giving was that a trilogy of films could take them up to the end of this time period. Assuming the films had been succesful, a series could then be produced.
First off, welcome to the board Shutty24. Glad to have you w/ us.
I am compelled to agree w/ what you say Shutty. Nathan had mentioned that it would not return to tv for "some time" but was not specific about how long. I am sure it has something to do w/ some sort of time limitation clause in the contract w/ Fox.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Originally posted by GreggAllinson:Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Another thing to bear in mind; the original budget was set at $35 million, but according to reports, the new budget is $50 million. What has changed to increase the budge $15 million and how will that effect expectations for the movie? What ticket sales figure will now be accepted by Universal as successful?
As I understand it, a movie needs to earn back double or triple its budget to "break even". So...$150 million and Serenity would likely be seen as at least a moderate hit. $200 mill and I can almost guarantee another movie.
$150-200 million is a pretty tall order. I know the fanbase is growing, and most of us will see the movie many times, but the number still seems pretty high.
I hope that Universal & Joss use a good chunk of that $50 million budget to promote the movie and get enough interest generated to hit that goal.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Reavers. Definitely Reavers... you know, for mass appeal.
Well, even if we already knew that, here's a good read:
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/tickermaster/listing.cfm?TMID=1137
"The greatest irony possible here would be for Serenity, the Firefly movie, to open larger than X-Files: Fight for the Future did. There would be no more satisfying success than for the Joss Whedon film to outperform the Chris Carter franchise that it was expected to replace on Fox, but never truly given the opportunity."
BTW, according to IMDB, the X-Files movie budget was $66 million. It made $30mil on the opening weekend , and a total of $83mil during its run in the US.
I'm guessing Serenity will not make $30mil on its opening weekend, but like the series will do better as time goes by through word-of-mouth. Will it make double its cost, earning $100 million during its run? That would do. Triple would be better!
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Great article. Thanks for the link Wydraz.
I think we are going to be hard pressed to hit the $100 million mark, but it is not unattainable. It will mean each & everyone of us needs to go see it, taking as many people as we can, and going as many times as we can afford. It also means stepping up our efforts to convert people. We still have a year and with the DVD available, it is easier to convert people than ever before.
The success of the movie relies in a large part on us, the fanbase. We need to get the word out about the movie, the show, the DVD set, and convert everyone we can in the time we have before the movie's release.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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All nine original cast members! YAY! That rocks. Also a 50million budget is better than the 35million one...Offcourse...
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More than likely the increase from $35m to $50m is the advertising budget. Hopefully Joss was able to talk the suits into putting some more money into actually promoting the show. Likely through increased visibilty in sci-fi venues. Remember if the movie does well, box set sales will likely increase.
In order for another movie to be made, Serenity will likely have to at least double its $50m budget. Why? Because the studio will likely want to at least break even on two movies. Meaning the first would hopefully make enough to cover the costs of both 1 and 2. This would allow the movie studio to see pure profit from the likely increased popularity in a second movie.
Word of mouth advertising is the only way we will be fortunate enough to get all 3 made. The suits are going to have to see that the TV Series box sets sales have increased from Serenity as well an increase in fan base. Once there they can work on merchandising - where Joss and the studio will make the most profit.
It isnt as simple as ticket sales etc, but the success of Serenity will determine if 2 and 3 are made.
Cheers!
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
The success of the movie relies in a large part on us, the fanbase. We need to get the word out about the movie, the show, the DVD set, and convert everyone we can in the time we have before the movie's release.
That's true, BC1. I keep thinking about how we can increase the recruiting momentum...what do you all think about some kind of system where you can 'register' who you recruited (or who recruited you) on one of the websites (maybe browncoats.com?) and with the promise of some vague future prizes (weekly, monthly, lifetime) for those who convert/recruit the most? Of course you would have to have some system of e-mail responding with the word in an image or something to prevent cheating/automated registrations, but I think it would be doable and it might help motivate some folks who have already converted their really close family and friends, but may not have taken it to the next circle of more casual friends, co-workers, etc.
What do you think?
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Hey - just signed up to this thing, and I have slightly jolier news for you guys than seems to have been indicated on here so far.
I was at Starfury:Fusion in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago, and what Nathan Fillion actually said about the deal between Fox and Universal was that they would be unable to produce a tv series FOR A PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD. The hint that he (and Summer Glau and Jewel Staite) seemed to be giving was that a trilogy of films could take them up to the end of this time period. Assuming the films had been succesful, a series could then be produced.
Welcome aboard!
That is some SHINY soundin' news there, Shutty24. If you are reading that right, we could be in for a long wait til the series comes back (if- I am sad that I must include this- ever). Still, I'm patient...kinda. I'll wait for the movies and everything.
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
The success of the movie relies in a large part on us, the fanbase. We need to get the word out about the movie, the show, the DVD set, and convert everyone we can in the time we have before the movie's release.
That's true, BC1. I keep thinking about how we can increase the recruiting momentum...what do you all think about some kind of system where you can 'register' who you recruited (or who recruited you) on one of the websites (maybe browncoats.com?) and with the promise of some vague future prizes (weekly, monthly, lifetime) for those who convert/recruit the most? Of course you would have to have some system of e-mail responding with the word in an image or something to prevent cheating/automated registrations, but I think it would be doable and it might help motivate some folks who have already converted their really close family and friends, but may not have taken it to the next circle of more casual friends, co-workers, etc.
What do you think?
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Well that hole converting thing sounds just a bit religious...Don't you think? I personally am gonna convert people by showing them the DVD. I will just have to order it from the internet first, cause it isn't actually on sale here in Finland. Atleast not yet. I think it would come at the same time with the movie or something, but I'm not gonna wait that long.
By the way, FF started showing here in Finland just recently...a few months back and it's still on. The episode yesterday was "Serenity", part2. I dunno know why they showed it in the midle cause there's still coming atlaest two episodes of FF the following weeks.
You can't take the sky from me...
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