Isn't she lovely..........hmmmmmm
POSTED BY: FutureMrsFIllion
UPDATED: Saturday, September 13, 2008 14:12
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I have no chance, nor does anyone else, of changing your views.
What, you mean you want to change our views? Isn't that telling us what to do and how to think?
And what chance does anyone have of changing your views? You've adamantly maintained that you have a right to those views; do you not feel that others have a right to their views as well?
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Kwicko
You know what I found particularly amusing last night? Her assertion that she and McCain were going to solve the global warming issue even if it were mother nature causing it. So who is the messiah now?
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"We don't fear the reaper"
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Kwicko
You know what I found particularly amusing last night? Her assertion that she and McCain were going to solve the global warming issue even if it were mother nature causing it. So who is the messiah now?
Me.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Terraforming begins at home!!
All hail Citizen, the new Messiah!!
Cit, you've got my vote. Wait - does one vote for a messiah? Or is it like King Arthur, and you get a scimitar tossed at you by some watery tart?
I can never suss that out...
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Hello,
This train is horribly derailed, but I did read this I wanted to ask about:
"Liberals are not Socialist, that's the mad raving of a horse molester"
Am I wrong in equating Liberal ideals and the Democratic party's ideals?
I had believed (though now I doubt myself with this comment) that the Liberal philosophy included support for Socialist programs, including a tax structure that places unequal burden on the wealthiest individuals, under the premise that they can afford it.
Where did I go wrong?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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You know what I found particularly amusing last night? Her assertion that she and McCain were going to solve the global warming issue even if it were mother nature causing it. So who is the messiah now?
That right there should cost them the AuRaptor and Hero votes - after all, they're convinced that not only is global warming not influenced by Man, but that it doesn't exist at all in the first place!
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
This train is horribly derailed, but I did read this I wanted to ask about:
"Liberals are not Socialist, that's the mad raving of a horse molester"
Am I wrong in equating Liberal ideals and the Democratic party's ideals?
I had believed (though now I doubt myself with this comment) that the Liberal philosophy included support for Socialist programs, including a tax structure that places unequal burden on the wealthiest individuals, under the premise that they can afford it. Where did I go wrong?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
Explain how it is an unequal burden to expect the rich to actually pay taxes on their income? Also a Socialist Government would advocate collective ownership - meaning we all own everything. (Sorry hit the wrong button and put it in the wrong spot!) Liberals are more concerned with equal opportunity and an individuals rights.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
This train is horribly derailed, but I did read this I wanted to ask about:
"Liberals are not Socialist, that's the mad raving of a horse molester"
Am I wrong in equating Liberal ideals and the Democratic party's ideals?
I had believed (though now I doubt myself with this comment) that the Liberal philosophy included support for Socialist programs, including a tax structure that places unequal burden on the wealthiest individuals, under the premise that they can afford it.
Where did I go wrong?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
I think that response was intended to point out first and foremost that Democratic Socialists - "Nazis" to you and me, but officially the Democratic Socialist Party - aren't liberal.
Also, I'm of the opinion that the wealthy shouldn't be taxed MORE heavily than everyone else, but EXACTLY as heavily. And that your "income" that is taxed includes any monetary reward you receive for your work, such as bonuses, signing bonuses, stock bonuses, etc.
Does that sound like socialism to you?
Also, please note that we already have multitudes of socialist programs in this country. Who picks up your trash? Do you pay a private company for it, and pay dependent on how much trash you throw away? Who protects your streets? Do you pay the cops if they show up, but not pay them unless you need them? How about firefighters? Do you only pay if you have a fire? What about our military? Do you pay for the wars you choose to pay for, or for all of them?
Is that not socialism? Don't the Republicans always run on the idea of more military, more police, more firefighters? Are they then the more socialist party?
Just puttin' it out there...
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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I (heart) Kwicko
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
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Hello,
I have, at times, been an advocate of a low flat tax. A tax with no loopholes that would tax all persons equally. This would require the wealthy to pay taxes like the rest of us.
However, the Democratic and Liberal platforms I've heard (and I may be mistaken here, please feel free to disabase me of any erroneous notions) suggest taxing the wealthy most highly, the middle class a median amount, and the low income earners little or nothing.
Said taxes to be used for social programs like universal health care, government provided education, housing assistance, unemployment aid, etc.
This effectively moves wealth from the top to the bottom, and brings everyone closer to parity.
Am I mistaken on any point here?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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