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Isn't she lovely..........hmmmmmm

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 11:46 AM

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It's the whole innocent until proven guilty mindset...



Yes, it IS the whole innocent-until-proven-guilty mindset. Hero and AuRaptor have explicitly called the original article a lie, and the author a liar, and have offered not one scintilla of proof to back that up. And that's just typical of the Republican mindset; someone writes something unflattering about you, you try to destroy them, personally. Call them a liar, but offer no evidence.

Is the article in question a lie? I have no way of knowing. I haven't hailed it as the absolute truth, and I haven't derided it as a scurrilous lie, either. The real truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.






Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 11:48 AM

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Obama has gone from just one Reverand Wright to now hundreds...


That's a lie. It's pure conservative BS.

Eyewitnesses said McCain called Obama a "nigger".

There. Now, according to the prevailing logic around here, the onus is on YOU to prove me wrong.




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 1:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
There. Now, according to the prevailing logic around here, the onus is on YOU to prove me wrong.

That is not the “prevailing logic.” That is your logic.

According to YOUR logic I can accept as true:
"Obama has gone from just one Reverand Wright to now hundreds..."
Because the Onus is on YOU to prove it wrong, and you haven't done so.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:00 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
There. Now, according to the prevailing logic around here, the onus is on YOU to prove me wrong.

That is not the “prevailing logic.” That is your logic.

According to YOUR logic I can accept as true:
"Obama has gone from just one Reverand Wright to now hundreds..."
Because the Onus is on YOU to prove it wrong, and you haven't done so.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero


Don't waste a minute of your life trying to converse or debate with him....he's like all the rest. The following was taken from a media article today ...

"We need to throw every last molecule of shit we've got at McCain and Palin," said a poster at the Democratic Underground. "Demonize them. Dehumanize them."

Panic brings out the ugliness in ugly people. And ugliness of this sort is not restricted to moonbat bloggers.

"In the press galleries at the convention, journalists wrinkled their noses in disgust when Piper, Ms. Palin's youngest daughter, was filmed kitty-licking her baby brother's hair in place," wrote David Carr in the New York Times Sunday.

The sewer that is the left-wing blogosphere pumps its bilge directly into the "mainstream" media. "People say yes, she looks good in a bikini clutching an AK-47, but is she equipped to run the country?" asked CNN reporter Lola Ogunnaike, referring, as if it were true, to a crude photoshop on left wing blogs that imposed Ms. Palin's face on someone else's body.

Sarah Palin's approval rating in Alaska last month was 81.6 percent. That means for every person who doesn't like Ms. Palin, there are four who do. But reporters seem only to quote her political enemies, without identifying them as such.

Media honchos say they're just doing due diligence."


They're pathetic & hopeless. And when Obama goes down in flames they're really gonna lose it.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I could make the same claim of your drivel. Where is your evidence? Where is your proof? If you can't prove it, you shouldn't write it, eh? You've said he's a liar and his work is all lies - can you PROVE that?


I didn't write the story. The burdon of proof is on the author or the article.

H

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
In a court of law, if you are accused of libel or slander, it is incumbent upon the accuser to prove his case, more than on you to disprove it, is it not?


Libel and slander are civil actions. In such a case the accuser has the right to discovery. Discovery rules would force the author/defendant to produce his evidence and sources for examination by the accuser. If he can't (or wont) then that can be used as evidence that such evidence did not exist.

That means that the proof is the other person's lack of proof.

Don't forget, in a Civil Action a person cannot refuse to testify. My first witness representing the accuser in such a trial would be the Defendant.

H

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Palin calling Obama "Sambo" would be allowed as evidence in court.


Only in direct testimony from the person who heard it. There would be no 'I heard from a lady who says she heard Palin say'. It would have to be 'I heard Palin say'.

And somehow I doubt the actual witness exists or if she does I suspect that there would be a dozen other people who'd say...didn't happen, there'd be proof she (Palin) was never there, etc. You know...cause its all a lie.

H

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:23 PM

Ive stopped paying attention to what each of the candidates supposidly said....

Im sure you can find someone who would testify to B.O. saying "If I'm in power, Im gonna make whitey pay!"

Or McCain, "If Im in power I'm gonna make those slopes pay!"

Im so sick of politics.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:29 PM

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And somehow I doubt the actual witness exists or if she does I suspect that there would be a dozen other people who'd say...didn't happen, there'd be proof she (Palin) was never there, etc. You know...cause its all a lie.



Weren't you one of the ones who fervently believed that Obama was in church when Reverend Wright made his fiery sermons demonizing the U.S.?

Even when there was PROOF that he wasn't there - in fact, was over 1000 miles away.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:34 PM

Well Wulf, there's always this guy.

You weren't here for it, but I actually owe Sharpton one for his assistance with the Genarlow Wilson case, he was pretty helpful, and without a lot of the grandstanding he's generally known for.

And I pay my debts.

-F

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