Isn't she lovely..........hmmmmmm
POSTED BY: FutureMrsFIllion
UPDATED: Saturday, September 13, 2008 14:12
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
by Charley James –
This guy is a slightly more successful version of PirateNews.
The story is a lie. I don't know if the lie is from Mr. James or to Mr. James...I don't think it matters.
If he can't prove it he should not write it. If he can, then his evidence should be readily available.
It is nonsense. For one thing...Alaskans don't whisper in fear about anything. They're tuff folks...watch Deadliest Catch http://www.amazon.com/Deadliest-Catch-Season-Disc-Set/dp/B000LPS2TK/re
f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1220900866&sr=8-1
or
Snow Dogs http://www.amazon.com/Snow-Dogs-Cuba-Gooding-Jr/dp/B00005JKVU/ref=sr_1
_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1220900898&sr=1-1
And if Sarah Palin would casually say something like that once...she'd have said it again and it'd be all over Youtube. Frankly if that kind of thing does exist, they liberal dirt divers have not had a chance to find it yet...its been too quick and they simply don't have the resources in Alaska to dig deep.
That means they made it up...just like all the other dirt and mud they've been flinging. And the more they fling the cleaner she gets because now...if they do find something...nobody will believe it cause the credibility wagon has sailed on the Sarah-haters.
So attack her experiance...well, she's got more the Barrack. Attack her policies...well, they seem to be good for Alaska. Make fun of her appearance...well, folk seem to like it ( http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-ig-notebook7-2008sep07,0,75850
60.story). Attack her for being a woman, wait...they're Democrats, they love woman leaders. They seem to have a bit of a Sarah problem...which I suspect is the reason McCain picked her.
H
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If he can't prove it he should not write it. If he can, then his evidence should be readily available.
I could make the same claim of your drivel. Where is your evidence? Where is your proof? If you can't prove it, you shouldn't write it, eh? You've said he's a liar and his work is all lies - can you PROVE that?
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Quote:The onus is on James to provide evidence for his article. He is none. At most he has hearsay, which quite frankly is probably a lie, at some point. Nonetheless, it is up to James to confirm his own story, not Hero or me or you or anyone else. I promise you that I could write a story about Obama in which I stated as fact the things many people have said, and I could make him look like a raving lunatic. Funny, I’m willing to bet you’d not let me get away without providing my own proof, so why do you do it to Palin?
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I could make the same claim of your drivel. Where is your evidence? Where is your proof? If you can't prove it, you shouldn't write it, eh? You've said he's a liar and his work is all lies - can you PROVE that?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:The onus is on James to provide evidence for his article. He is none. At most he has hearsay, which quite frankly is probably a lie, at some point. Nonetheless, it is up to James to confirm his own story, not Hero or me or you or anyone else. I promise you that I could write a story about Obama in which I stated as fact the things many people have said, and I could make him look like a raving lunatic. Funny, I’m willing to bet you’d not let me get away without providing my own proof, so why do you do it to Palin?
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I could make the same claim of your drivel. Where is your evidence? Where is your proof? If you can't prove it, you shouldn't write it, eh? You've said he's a liar and his work is all lies - can you PROVE that?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
Hello,
I agree with Finn here. The claimant must provide the evidence, not the defending party.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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I agree with Finn here. The claimant must provide the evidence, not the defending party.
Which is what I was asking for - Hero made the claim that these are all "lies" - hence he became the claimant. I asked for cites for his assertions, or evidence to support his claims.
In a court of law, if you are accused of libel or slander, it is incumbent upon the accuser to prove his case, more than on you to disprove it, is it not?
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Hello,
Curious turnaround. But I'll still stick with him.
Because the proper response when someone accuses someone else of something is this:
"Oh yeah? I don't believe you. Prove it."
It's the whole innocent until proven guilty mindset, and it was well executed. Now you're saying, "You don't believe him? He's a liar? Prove it!" Which is a nice turnaround, but not really a very good way to handle it in my opinion.
So I'll reserve judgment, and so should you, until this is backed up from additional sources.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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In Federal and State Rules of Evidence, hearsay is allowed as evidence in court. One exception to the hearsay exclusion is "excited utterance", another is "detrimental statement".
Palin calling Obama "Sambo" would be allowed as evidence in court.
So would Laay Sinclair's testimony that Obama told him to suck his protuberance and pass the crack pipe.
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Quote:Actually, they both should. If hero said, back that up, he's not making a claim, but he did make a claim, he claimed that the opening claim was a lie. If they're both making claims, they both should back them up.
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
I agree with Finn here. The claimant must provide the evidence, not the defending party.
--Anthony
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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I've been saying it now for 11 days.....every time some Liberal or Democrat foams at the mouth and besmirches Sarah, she and McCain go up in popularity. From 7 points down to USA/Gallop's 10 points up. That's a lot more than a convention bump...that's the start of an avalanche. Obama has gone from just one Reverand Wright to now hundreds, and although his campaign desperately wants the Palin bashing stopped for obvious reasons (well, obvious at least to anyone with a brain or some political saavy), they can't stop it. And the liars and character assassins cannot control themselves either. It's just a perfect scenario for McCain & Palin to waltz into the White House.
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So I'll reserve judgment, and so should you, until this is backed up from additional sources.
If you notice, I haven't offered any judgment on this. It reads to me like one of those chain e-mails that pop up - you know, like the one that got posted here about Obama being a Muslim!
I haven't offered an opinion on the piece one way or the other. That puts me pretty squarely in the minority here, it looks like. From the local loony-right, we get these opinions, none of which are backed up by a single "fact":
From AuRaptor:
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100 % Pure Liberal B.S.
So, not only is it a lie, in his book, but a LIBERAL lie, to boot.
From Finn comes this gem:
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And according to numerous “eye-witnesses” in Arkansas the Clinton’s routinely used the word “nigger.”
Not explicitly calling it a lie, just trying to deflect with something even more inflammatory.
And then Hero offers us this rationalization:
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The story is a lie. I don't know if the lie is from Mr. James or to Mr. James...I don't think it matters.
So he KNOWS it's a lie, but doesn't know how. And doesn't think it matters.
You'll note that these are the same three posters who insisted that if Bush didn't know the WMD thing was a lie, then he didn't technically lie about WMD. Only he did. Whether it was a lie he told, or a lie told to him, it doesn't really matter, does it, Hero?
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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