Simon and Kaylee the whole she-bang

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JUMPY

Monday, May 3, 2004 10:28 PM

yeh hell yeh ELWOODMOM.

thanks for that HOWDYROCKERBABY1 i was pretty sure it wasn't from another post

Mercy is the mark of a great man…*stab*…I guess I'm just a good man…*stab*…Well, I'm alright.

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Tuesday, May 4, 2004 2:23 AM

Hi Elwoodmom! How are ya?

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"Here's to Jayne, the box dropping man-ape-gone-wrong-thing"
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ELWOODMOM

Wednesday, May 5, 2004 5:43 PM

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Originally posted by Elwoodmom:

Hi, everyone. Go here to vote for your favorite Firefly cast member. I know that Howdy already voted for Simon!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4885&m=59807#top

Those who haven't voted have until Sunday May 9th to do so. It's a long thread, but it's fun to read, and it's a close race! (Between Mal and Jayne, that is. Simon could use a few more votes!) :)

SAFFY

Thursday, May 6, 2004 2:50 AM

I've always felt that Simon and Kaylee were a train wreck waiting to happen. Kaylee just seems to like Simon a lot more than he likes her. In fact, there's an "out of sight, out of mind" element to the way he regards Kaylee, while she moons over him frequently. We never see Simon musing out loud about what /Kaylee/ would like. And he associates her with a way of life he'd rather not be living.

Socially and intellectually, the two are worlds apart. The girls who snubbed Kaylee in "Shindig" are probably closer to the type of women Simon is used to, and I always saw that bit as foreshadowing. It's doubtful that Kaylee would fit into Simon's world.

I do think Simon has affection for Kaylee, as one would for a friend or a "little sister" type, and I think he finds her attractive, especially in the absence of competition. His life is now out of his control, with all his life's ambitions up in smoke, so I think he figures, "Why not?" But that's really the key. Would he choose her if she were among women his own speed? I say no way.

I think Joss was building up to a heartbreak in the long term.

DEANNAMAY

Thursday, May 6, 2004 11:43 AM

I thought Simon and Kaylee had a great future.

Simon feels he has nothing to offer Kaylee, and knows he might have to take his sister and run. After being on Firefly for a while, and realizing the crew (for the most part) would stand behind him and his sister, I think he would have relaxed a bit.

Again, as mentioned above, he is showing his respect for Kaylee, not his lack of interest. Whereas others may use Kaylee for a roll in the hay, Simon wants to offer her something.

I think he felt out of place because of his intellect growing up. Then spent time being protective of his sister. Then trying to find his place in the world with his professional skills. While not a virgin, he is inexperienced, I am sure. He probably also learned romance from books, and has an idealized version of it.

I think if the show had made it to the end of the season we would have seen some true evolving of this relationship. Simon being more comfortable showing his appreciation her talent with machines, her genuiness, her love of life. Book learning isn't everything. Kaylee would find his sensitivity, his devotion and loyalty more enchanting than his intellect.

Both of them are very loyal individuals, both have talents that are above standard (his with medicine, hers with machines), both are attracted to each other. These two have loads in common, and they can learn the rest from the other as they go.

JMUDUKE

Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:40 AM

I'm sure that he likes her just as much as she likes him. The problem is he has a weird way of showing it and it takes a lot for him to let his "proper" guard down. I think it was in Objects in Space where he almost kissed Kaylee but Book walked in and they stopped and he broke off to go to bed. And it took Simon getting drunk to tell Kaylee what he thought about her in the Jaynestown episode. I think they would've ended up together. Or maybe even keeping their relationship a secret from the captain for some humour in the show.

FLAMETREE

Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:35 AM

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Originally posted by Saffy:
I've always felt that Simon and Kaylee were a train wreck waiting to happen. Kaylee just seems to like Simon a lot more than he likes her. In fact, there's an "out of sight, out of mind" element to the way he regards Kaylee, while she moons over him frequently. We never see Simon musing out loud about what /Kaylee/ would like. And he associates her with a way of life he'd rather not be living.

Socially and intellectually, the two are worlds apart. The girls who snubbed Kaylee in "Shindig" are probably closer to the type of women Simon is used to, and I always saw that bit as foreshadowing. It's doubtful that Kaylee would fit into Simon's world.

I do think Simon has affection for Kaylee, as one would for a friend or a "little sister" type, and I think he finds her attractive, especially in the absence of competition. His life is now out of his control, with all his life's ambitions up in smoke, so I think he figures, "Why not?" But that's really the key. Would he choose her if she were among women his own speed? I say no way.

I think Joss was building up to a heartbreak in the long term.

Yes I agree with this. Simon likes Kaylee. But It would not work. The difference between "sweet" and "irritating" is not much.

Simon is much tougher than Kaylee. I don't think he wants to hurt her. I think he can see a shot gun marriage kind of thing happening if he is not careful. Can you imagine what would happen if Kaylee sits down at dinner one day and says they are engaged! What could he do ? Politness can be a terrible burden. He really doesn't want that!

But he is young and if someone he likes wants a elationship what he going to do. As he said there is no one else avaliable.

FLAMETREE

Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Saffy:
I've always felt that Simon and Kaylee were a train wreck waiting to happen. Kaylee just seems to like Simon a lot more than he likes her. In fact, there's an "out of sight, out of mind" element to the way he regards Kaylee, while she moons over him frequently. We never see Simon musing out loud about what /Kaylee/ would like. And he associates her with a way of life he'd rather not be living.

Socially and intellectually, the two are worlds apart. The girls who snubbed Kaylee in "Shindig" are probably closer to the type of women Simon is used to, and I always saw that bit as foreshadowing. It's doubtful that Kaylee would fit into Simon's world.

I do think Simon has affection for Kaylee, as one would for a friend or a "little sister" type, and I think he finds her attractive, especially in the absence of competition. His life is now out of his control, with all his life's ambitions up in smoke, so I think he figures, "Why not?" But that's really the key. Would he choose her if she were among women his own speed? I say no way.

I think Joss was building up to a heartbreak in the long term.

Yes I agree with this. Simon likes Kaylee. But It would not work. The difference between "sweet" and "irritating" is not much.

Simon is much tougher than Kaylee. I don't think he wants to hurt her. I think he can see a shot gun marriage kind of thing happening if he is not careful. Can you imagine what would happen if Kaylee sits down at dinner one day and says they are engaged! What could he do ? Politness can be a terrible burden. He really doesn't want that!

But he is young and if someone he likes wants a elationship what he going to do. As he said there is no one else avaliable.

CYBERSNARK

Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:12 PM

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Originally posted by flametree:
I think he can see a shot gun marriage kind of thing happening if he is not careful.

Yes, and Mal's the one holding the shotgun.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

PURPLEBELLY

Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:04 PM

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Originally posted by flametree:
Simon likes Kaylee.

Simon loves Kaylee. Simon loves River. Simon isn't sexually attracted to either of them.

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