Anarchist 1 - Cop 0 at RNC
POSTED BY: piratenews
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 10:53
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Oh, just to offer additional evidence of what happens when police catch a protestor alone...
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http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/6952/ youth-in-iconic-rnc-protest-photo-beaten-by-police-according-to-his-mother
http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/6997/ boot-print-on-his-back-photographs-video-of-17-year-old-rnc-protester-after-run-in-with-police
I will note that some people (not Unarrestors, who would have come in force) DID actually try to intervene, and wound up arrested for their troubles.
Anyone care to explain to me the difference between this and any other gang assault, other than we look the other way and give official sanction to one particular gang ?
We do believe some lessons are in order over this whole RNC mess, and they will be delivered in ways most unexpected.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Looney protesters being arrested in mass, and there civil rites ignored...........I LOVE St. Paul!!!
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Be a bit of a shocker for the cop in that case, depending on what ammo he was using.
All of that particular clans people wear a threat level IIA or even a II class vest with side panels, and an additional underlayer to soak up blunt impacts from clubs and boots.
Hell, even *I* wear a ratty old IIA - backwards, so the plate faces rearward, that being cause I drive a cab yanno.
Anyone shootin through the seat at me is gonna get a really rude surprise anyhow, as there's an additional plate IN the seats, courtesy of our mechanic, who might not be hot stuff mechanically, but ain't nobodys dummy.
-F
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RNC Non-Con 2008
Somewhere there's a news article from WKLA WFLA or similar, that cops were arrested as "anarchists" at RNC.
Any links Frem?
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None I can share at the moment - the whole mess is still an ongoing legal furball, and currently in the hands of the person you probably know as "Jock".
We *DID* set a couple undercovers at each other, for fun and games, I wonder if one arrested the other, that'd be rich, wouldn't it ?
They're also in some deep, deep shit over the supposed hostage situation they used to do a smash and grab on IWV, since we traced the phone number that called in that tip to the station which responded to it - how convenient that, yes ?
God DAMN these assholes are incompetent, it's all too fuckin easy sometimes... now if only some of these guys who did get hammered would listen to decent advice when they friggin heard it, yanno ?
But fuck it, if naught else, they're useful as bait.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Here's a bit of something,
Linked from this URL
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20690.htm
Added emphasis and notations for some bits.
When Protest Is Terrorism
RNC 8 Charged as Terrorists Under State Patriot Act
By Bruce Nestor
04/09/08 "ICH" -- - Ramsey County Charges RNC 8 Under State Patriot Act, Alleges Acts of Terrorism
In what appears to be the first use of criminal charges under the 2002 Minnesota version of the Federal Patriot Act, Ramsey County Prosecutors have formally charged 8 alleged leaders of the RNC Welcoming Committee with Conspiracy to Riot in Furtherance of Terrorism. Monica Bicking, Eryn Trimmer, Luce Guillen Givins, Erik Oseland, Nathanael Secor, Robert Czernik, Garrett Fitzgerald, and Max Spector, face up to 7 1/2 years in prison under the terrorism enhancement charge which allows for a 50% increase in the maximum penalty.
Affidavits released by law enforcement which were filed in support of the search warrants used in raids over the weekend, and used to support probable cause for the arrest warrants, are based on paid,confidential informants who infiltrated the RNCWC on behalf of law enforcement.(1) They allege that members of the group sought to kidnap delegates to the RNC, assault police officers with firebombs and explosives, and sabotage airports in St. Paul. Evidence released to date does not corroborate these allegations with physical evidence or provide any other evidence for these allegations than the claims of the informants.(2) Based on past abuses of such informants by law enforcement, the National Lawyers Guild is concerned that such police informants have incentives to lie and exaggerate threats of violence and to also act as provacateurs in raising and urging support for acts of violence.
“These charges are an effort to equate publicly stated plans to blockade traffic and disrupt the RNC as being the same as acts of terrorism. This both trivializes real violence and attempts to place the stated political views of the Defendants on trial,” said Bruce Nestor, President of the Minnesota Chapter of the National Lawyers Guild. “The charges represent an abuse of the criminal justice system and seek to intimidate any person organizing large scale public demonstrations potentially involving civil disobedience, he said.”
The criminal complaints filed by the Ramsey County Attorney do not allege that any of the defendants personally have engaged in any act of violence or damage to property.(3) The complaints list all of alleged violations of law during the last few days of the RNC — other than violations of human rights carried out by law enforcement — and seeks to hold the 8 defendants responsible for acts committed by other individuals.(4) None of the defendants have any prior criminal history involving acts of violence. Searches conducted in connection with the raids failed to turn up any physical evidence to support the allegations of organized attacks on law enforcement. Although claiming probable cause to believe that gunpowder, acids, and assembled incendiary devices would be found, no such items were seized by police.(5)- As a result, police sought to claim that the seizure of common household items such as glass bottles, charcoal lighter, nails, a rusty machete, and two hatchets, supported the allegations of the confidential informants.(6) “Police found what they claim was a single plastic shield, a rusty machete, and two hatchets used in Minnesota to split wood. This doesn’t amount to evidence of an organized insurrection, particularly when over 3,500 police are present in the Twin Cities, armed with assault rifles, concussion grenades, chemical weapons and full riot gear,” said Nestor. In addition, the National Lawyers Guild has previously pointed out how law enforcement has fabricated evidence such as the claims that urine was seized which demonstrators intended to throw at police.(7)
The last time such charges were brought under Minnesota law was in 1918, when Matt Moilen and ot
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(1) - Paid informants, often acting in such capacity for reduction of convicted offenses, and thus much-inclined to manufacture or falsify evidence and commit perjury, since as a CI (confidential informant) they cannot be questioned under oath as the police refuse to disclose their identity, thus violating the right to face ones accuser.
(2) - Rendering such evidence hearsay, at best, and therefore making it inadmissable, which of course did not stop them.
(3) - In other words, they have nothing to charge them with, and did so anyway.
(4) - By that, they mean to charge these folk with the acts that the police plants actually committed.
(5) - Thus the warrant, having been served, and none of the listed evidence found, is no longer valid, and opens the police department to civil action in response given the force with which they executed it.
(6) - Having gotten in the door with a bogus and then discared warrant, then went on a "fishing expedition" and collected ordinary household items NOT listed in the warrant, making those items also effectively inadmissable and also technically committing theft.
(7) - As in, the police informant planted it, and somebody caught it on tape.
Still think the rule of law applies, folks ?
As I recall, I *DID* warn you folks this kinda thing was gonna start happening, and got mostly brushed off about it - the simple fact is that this can no longer be rectified within a system that is the equivalent of playing with a card sharpers marked deck on his own table, not when the rules only apply to you, and not them.
I am not at liberty to discuss my opinion of what tactics to use against this kind of thing until the case is processed, but said fact alone oughta give you a good idea of what they would be.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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