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UPDATED: Friday, August 22, 2008 02:46
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Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:29 AM

"no touching guns"...Mal doesn't know what River did in War Stories until the Pow Wow with Kaylee and the others. He did witness her irrational behavior with Jayne; "he looks better in red" so it's no sharp objects, guns, etc. Almost like the rules you would have for a child that you haven't trained yet. Mal doesn't know her proficiency with guns, pens, etc. And he doesn't give her the gun, it falls through the window, we assume that she takes it from the Alliance passenger.

nbz: I agree, that River is suffering from a great deal of mental pain in that scene with Simon, but I would like to believe that she is starting to be aware enough to know that she does things that are out of her control and she doesn't like it... "I never know what I'm saying"... just my hope for a healthier future for her.


I often wonder why Inara didn’t take River to the Training House with her. What a great place to hide her. She’s the perfect age and would have fit in with the other students, with out to many questions asked. And, she would have been safe under the umbrella of the Guild.

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:43 AM

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He did notice her irrational behavior with Jayne; "he looks better in red"
If you think about it, its not all that irrational. This is the one of the deepest things in Firefly. He was wearing a Blue-Sun shirt. She also ripped the labels off the Blue-Sun food cans. Blue-Sun was most likely behind the Acadamy, since they run basically everything, and she hates them. There's more things she does to show this, but they elude me at the moment.

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:50 AM

maybe not irrational to her, but aggressive to others, especially Jayne

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:19 AM

Well Jayne wasn't exactly friendly to her or Simon. Until Mal almost killed him, he was always trying to talk folks into selling them to the alliance. I think she had reason to be hostile to both him and Blue Sun

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:33 AM

Enjoyable enough but I'm not entirely happy with the character development in these comics. Mal's feet of clay seem to have hardened up considerably. In this episode he gets Simon and River on a criminal run, which was a MAJOR source of conflict in the bdm. And he had a clearer idea of River's talents than sits comfortably with me.

In Better Days it was even worse. He should have been tortured by jealousy in the late reveal about Inara's unexpected client. Given how Atherton made him twitch, what would this have done? Significantly more than Nandi did to Inara, methinks. So while I'll take this (thank you very much) I hope Mal is a complete spoon in the next installment, whenever that should appear.

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MER
Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:57 PM

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How did you save the picture like that? I tried to download and got nowhere. I thought about printing it out though...

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:36 PM

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PLATONIST

Friday, August 08, 2008 - 10:58

River's bloody hands,

Remember the Tam sessions?



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NBZ
As for the Tam Sessions, none of the crew know about them (and it was a different situation where we do not know her state of mind), so they should not be used as "prior proof" to already having bloody hands.



Uh, i think it's a deliberate visual reference to the Tam sessions,
but that doesn't mean the crew know about any of that.
The connection is - being put to use.
I think we're being asked to consider just how (not) very different River's position is on Serenity.
The Alliance wanted to use her (as the Tam sessions show) Mal DOES use her - and it always ends with bloody hands...

Of course, although this is DARK STUFF -
it actually adds to the positive conclusion of the BDM
where River makes the choice to (potentially) sacrifice herself (and get bloody hands) for herself.
It's a very Joss type set up (see Buffy season 8.5)

I think Mal does want to piss Simon off - it's all about owning River.
But I agree with NBZ that Mal didn't intend for River to have to shoot somebody.

The whole story is about the use to which people are put.
The Alliance using the guy to chase down smugglers. (Oh, definitely a blue sun weapon, so an undercover Op for sure.)
The Crew using the guy to get money etc etc.

The stagecoach? Guess there was trouble in town -
and it was the only transport out of dodge! Serenity would have called attention to itself
and generally hides away during shifty deals.

It's great to see the character development moving on -
and following from the previous comics (and many insightful character threads on this site!).

This is the crew as Whedon wanted us to see them - i feel anyway.

My only quibble is Simon's use of Mal's first name - it doesn't feel right and it's over used.

I want more of these - i love the comic series.


(apologies for the weird indent here -
i can't see with my right eye at the moment
so i have to shove everything to the left!)

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NBZ
Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:20 PM

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Originally posted by Platonist:
"no touching guns"...Mal doesn't know what River did in War Stories until the Pow Wow with Kaylee and the others.



Sorry I should have been more clear. I meant the other No touching Guns moment. :P The one where River tells Zoe off. She dopes not let Zoe use weaponry to get rid of Early.

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I often wonder why Inara didn’t take River to the Training House with her. What a great place to hide her. She’s the perfect age and would have fit in with the other students, with out to many questions asked. And, she would have been safe under the umbrella of the Guild.


heh, you can just see the storyline to herself. Especially the argument with Mal. "So... uhm... you're gonna take a mentally traumatised 17 year old girl. And turn her into a whore?"

As for safety, the BDM shows that it would not have been so, but then again we would not have known that at the time of the decision.

(If you have read a few of my conspiracy theories from long ago, I suggested that Simon chose Serenity because of Inara. Inara would have thought of Serenity as a safer option, but this is all circumstantial based on ifs and whats.

@CANTTAKEMYSKY - even if that was her reason, the actions weer still irrational. Stabbing someone for wearing a t-shirt you dislike is certainly not rational (civilised?) behaviour.

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I think we're being asked to consider just how (not) very different River's position is on Serenity.
The Alliance wanted to use her (as the Tam sessions show) Mal DOES use her - and it always ends with bloody hands



Interesting. Opens up many avenues to philosophise over.
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(apologies for the weird indent here -
i can't see with my right eye at the moment
so i have to shove everything to the left!)



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TWO
Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:07 PM

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How did you save the picture like that? I tried to download and got nowhere. I thought about printing it out though...



A PDF file with 8 pages of the "Serenity: The Other Half" comic can be downloaded at
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/13/2048723/Serenity-TheOtherHalf.p
df


Another version is at https://rcpt.yousendit.com/596466391/1414e394ca1f4f5810ca86202dd2d25f
That zip file at "you send it.com" will be available for only 7 Days or 100 downloads


The program I used to capture an "extended active window" was Hypersnap at http://www.hyperionics.com/
I cropped the snapshot with the free irfanview at http://www.irfanview.net/
I made the PDF file with the "Impress" slide-maker of OpenOffice at http://www.openoffice.org/

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:22 PM

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Originally posted by two:
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Originally posted by MER:


How did you save the picture like that? I tried to download and got nowhere. I thought about printing it out though...



A zip file with 8 pages of the "Serenity: The Other Half" comic can be downloaded at https://rcpt.yousendit.com/596466391/1414e394ca1f4f5810ca86202dd2d25f
The zip file will be available for 7 Days or 100 downloads

The program I used to capture an "extended active window" was Hypersnap at http://www.hyperionics.com/
I cropped the snapshot with the free irfanview at http://www.irfanview.net/



I just used that link - thanks, new shiny comic all my own:)
How much do you rule!?:)

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