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Joss explains how Dollhouse IS NOT Firefly

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Monday, July 28, 2008 3:35 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
FOX is going to put this show on before 24. I think this may be a hit now that FOX is no longger an "also ran" network.



If the statement were "put this show on after 24," I might be more inclined to agree with your sentiment, but not the way things are looking now...

With no disrespect to Joss Whedon, I think we're looking at a repeat of 2002's events unfolding right now. Rather than get my hopes up, I'll wait until Dollhouse: The Complete Series is released on DVD...which should be about a year from now.

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Monday, July 28, 2008 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by Almanac:
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Originally posted by whozit:
FOX is going to put this show on before 24. I think this may be a hit now that FOX is no longger an "also ran" network.



If the statement were "put this show on after 24," I might be more inclined to agree with your sentiment, but not the way things are looking now...

With no disrespect to Joss Whedon, I think we're looking at a repeat of 2002's events unfolding right now. Rather than get my hopes up, I'll wait until Dollhouse: The Complete Series is released on DVD...which should be about a year from now.


I agree that putting it before 24 is more likely to make it a death slot. The network will complain that the poor ratings are hurting 24's ratings and make it even more of a reason to yank the show.

Yes, I'm assuming poor ratings.

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Saturday, August 2, 2008 4:03 AM

Poor Josh has not learned a thing. He is still working with FOX and expects his new project, Dollhouse, will make it on that network. No ne of any consequence ever watches FOX, especially any diehard Sci-Fi fan. Yes, FOX’s viewership is better than in 2002, but not by much. I seriously believe the entire reason FireFly failed was because it was on FOX. I have been a BIG Sci-Fi fan since the first Star Trek came out when I was six-years old. I read and watch EVERYTHING Sci-Fi and never even heard of Firefly until after the movie came out. I do not know how I missed it in the theatres, but I did. Of course I now own the entire DVD collection including the movie. But if Josh seriously believes Dollhouse will make it on FOX; he is going to be seriously disappointed. Wasn’t it Einstein who said that the definition of stupidity (or was it insanity?) was to repeat the same thing over and over again and expect a different result?

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Monday, August 4, 2008 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by Almanac:
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Originally posted by whozit:
FOX is going to put this show on before 24. I think this may be a hit now that FOX is no longger an "also ran" network.



If the statement were "put this show on after 24," I might be more inclined to agree with your sentiment, but not the way things are looking now...

With no disrespect to Joss Whedon, I think we're looking at a repeat of 2002's events unfolding right now. Rather than get my hopes up, I'll wait until Dollhouse: The Complete Series is released on DVD...which should be about a year from now.


I agree that putting it before 24 is more likely to make it a death slot. The network will complain that the poor ratings are hurting 24's ratings and make it even more of a reason to yank the show.

Yes, I'm assuming poor ratings.



Oh crap. Oh crap. Network TV destroys everything it touches. I can't even bring myself to care anymore. I'm starting to not like FOX.

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 2:56 PM

Do you guys seriously think Joss has "not learned a thing?" I don't know about you, but he seems pretty smart to me...
Maybe instead of being negative we could show our support and excitement for the show? This is a great time: Joss back on TV! And the internet! This is a GOOD THING.
Getting a show on tv is not like choosing where to eat at the food court. Joss took his show where he could, and that was Fox.
So suppress your fear, enjoy the ride, and WATCH DOLLHOUSE! Not on dvd, but on Fox, when it airs. Yeah, it hurts if a show is cancelled. Believe me, I know. But isn't falling in love with a new Joss show worth the risk?

~lissa, retired spwhore

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:13 PM

I agree. There have been so many shows that I loved that have been cancelled. I never once thought 'oh god, I wish I'd never bothered watching that'. It's better to have loved Joss shows and lost them ....
I'll be there enjoying the ride and trying not to think that it could get ripped out from under us any minute.
Of course, being a Brit, I'll probably only get a chance to start watching it after it's been cancelled (but enough of this negativity! There's always downloads)

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Saturday, August 9, 2008 3:34 AM

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Originally posted by lissa:
Do you guys seriously think Joss has "not learned a thing?" I don't know about you, but he seems pretty smart to me...
Maybe instead of being negative we could show our support and excitement for the show? This is a great time: Joss back on TV! And the internet! This is a GOOD THING.
Getting a show on tv is not like choosing where to eat at the food court. Joss took his show where he could, and that was Fox.
So suppress your fear, enjoy the ride, and WATCH DOLLHOUSE! Not on dvd, but on Fox, when it airs. Yeah, it hurts if a show is cancelled. Believe me, I know. But isn't falling in love with a new Joss show worth the risk?

~lissa, retired spwhore



Whoa! I didn't say anything about our Joss not learning a thing... Hope I didn't copy that in my message!

It's not that I doubt him, just that I have learned to never underestimate the ignorance of American Network TV Execs. I don't trust them. Having said that, of course I will be watching...

You must admit the parallels to The Firefly Incident are unsettling. And I am comforted by Joss' words. I don't think he's the type to lie, even when it might be to protect his new baby.

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"

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Saturday, August 9, 2008 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lissa:
Do you guys seriously think Joss has "not learned a thing?" I don't know about you, but he seems pretty smart to me...
Maybe instead of being negative we could show our support and excitement for the show? This is a great time: Joss back on TV! And the internet! This is a GOOD THING.
Getting a show on tv is not like choosing where to eat at the food court. Joss took his show where he could, and that was Fox.
So suppress your fear, enjoy the ride, and WATCH DOLLHOUSE! Not on dvd, but on Fox, when it airs. Yeah, it hurts if a show is cancelled. Believe me, I know. But isn't falling in love with a new Joss show worth the risk?

~lissa, retired spwhore



ALL good points , LISSA !

Thanks for the Browncoat optimism and positivity , mei-mei...

Just one thing , though , that folk oughta keep in mind...

This is REALLY Eliza's Deal , just that she CHOSE Joss as her concept guy and show runner , which shows how smart SHE is...

Beautiful AND Smart...Now THAT ain't ever gettin' old !

Er , whatza 'spwhore' , if you don't mind my askin' ?

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Saturday, August 9, 2008 1:42 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenixship:
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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by Almanac:
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Originally posted by whozit:
FOX is going to put this show on before 24. I think this may be a hit now that FOX is no longger an "also ran" network.



If the statement were "put this show on after 24," I might be more inclined to agree with your sentiment, but not the way things are looking now...

With no disrespect to Joss Whedon, I think we're looking at a repeat of 2002's events unfolding right now. Rather than get my hopes up, I'll wait until Dollhouse: The Complete Series is released on DVD...which should be about a year from now.


I agree that putting it before 24 is more likely to make it a death slot. The network will complain that the poor ratings are hurting 24's ratings and make it even more of a reason to yank the show.

Yes, I'm assuming poor ratings.



Oh crap. Oh crap. Network TV destroys everything it touches. I can't even bring myself to care anymore. I'm starting to not like FOX.

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"

Many were saying the same about Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicals, season 2 is a go. This show may not get American Idol ratings (Also on FOX) but it may do well enough to find a core audiance like Prison Break, T:TSCC and BONES to keep it on for several seasons. Keep the faith!

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:59 AM

PheonixShip, sorry if you thought I was directing that all at you. I just clicked reply on the last post. It was directed at the general negativity of the thread, not at one person.

~lissa

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