Ronald Reagan, inexperienced celebrity
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AURaptor is speechless- I'll take that as an inability to refute the opinion that Reagan was the one that made much of the horrors in Nicaragua possible- not the act of one of our 'best' Presidents.
Unless I hear otherwise, I'm glad you're beginning in some small way to accept the truth in this matter.
Chrisisall
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You know, Ollie North might have been an A-1 creep, but unlike our current political types he did have a certain honor about him.
He took his orders, took the money, and he *stayed bought* - I can respect that even if I have utterly no respect for what he did.
-F
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Nice try. Except you overlooked 1 thing.I never buy gas from Conoco gas stations.
Better never buy from BP, Chevron, or Citgo, either.
And ConocoPhilips has been exiled from drilling agreements with the Venezuelan national oil companies. They DO refine some Venezuelan heavy crude at their Sweeny, Texas refinery, but they're not allowed to drill or operate on Venezuela's oil fields.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
You know, Ollie North might have been an A-1 creep, but unlike our current political types he did have a certain honor about him.
He took his orders, took the money, and he *stayed bought* - I can respect that even if I have utterly no respect for what he did.
-F
Actually, I could say the same about G Gordon Liddy. It doesn't make me like him any better, though.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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AURaptor is speechless-
And once again, that means YOU WIN!
:)
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
AURaptor is speechless-
And once again, that means YOU WIN!
Hehhehisall
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Nice try. Except you overlooked 1 thing.I never buy gas from Citgo gas stations.
Better never buy from BP, Chevron, or Citgo, either.
Mike
I meantCitgo, not Conoco.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
AURaptor is speechless- I'll take that as an inability to refute the opinion that Reagan was the one that made much of the horrors in Nicaragua possible- not the act of one of our 'best' Presidents.
Unless I hear otherwise, I'm glad you're beginning in some small way to accept the truth in this matter.
I failed to respond because you idiots are hopelessly brainwashed. Reagan didn't make ANY horrors possible, he only allowed for people to fight the evil of Communism. Those folks are who they are, and whether we gave them aid or not, they were going to fight as best they could. Whether its in Central America or Afghanistan, people will natually reject communism, and fight for freedom, if given half a chance. HOW they chose to fight is up to them.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I meantCitgo, not Conoco.
Well, you better have meant BOTH - Conoco doesn't DRILL in Chavez's "worker's paradise" (hah!), but they do indeed buy and refine Venezuelan crude.
Now, I suppose in light of this, we should immediately stop importing oil from Venezuela (we get about 11.5% of our oil from them currently, from what I've read) and switch over to something else. Problem is, a great number of the Gulf Coast refineries are geared to this "extra-heavy" crude from Venezuela, and would have to be refitted and reconfigured to deal with light sweet crude from the Mid-East or Africa, or reconfigured even more to deal with the sulfur-and water-laden crude from the Gulf of Mexico and the states on the gulf.
And that is something that no oil company really wants to do. And no city, no state, has stepped forward to volunteer to have new refineries built. Nobody wants them in their backyard. So even if we started drilling on every square acre of the United States, what are we going to do with the oil we find?
So while we may officially hate Venezuela and all they stand for, we're going to continue to line their pockets, and we'd give them more money if they'd give us more oil. And the same goes for Iran and literally everywhere else in the world that has oil - no matter their politics or our "ideals".
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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I failed to respond because you idiots are hopelessly brainwashed. Reagan didn't made ANY horrors possible, he only allowed for people to fight the evil of Communism. Those folks are who they are, and whether we gave them aid or not, they were going to fight as best they could. Whether its in Central America or Afghanistan, people will natually reject communism, and fight for freedom, if given half a chance. HOW they chose to fight is up to them.
And yet, you responded, although you apparently find doing so to be beneath you.
They were going to fight as best they could... so we just HAD to make it all the easier for them, no matter what means they decided to use. Oddly, this kind of logic never seems to get much sympathy when we talk about the War on Drugs. "Those people" are going to do drugs as best they can, so why not just legalize the drugs and give them to the addicts?
This logic reminds me of the good old Reagan/Contra days, when Congress decreed that only food and humanitarian aid, and not weapons, could be given to the Contras. So in effect, what Reagan's boys did was say, "Here ya go, Poncho - here's a TV dinner... and 385,000 pounds of C4 to heat it with!"
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia
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