Haken speaks

POSTED BY: SigmaNunki
UPDATED: Sunday, July 27, 2008 23:01
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MSB

Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:57 PM

HUGS Thanks Haken...much better

Ok now all of you get over to pay pal and anti up for all Haken's time and trouble ( you know he could charge us to be here and all, but thankfully he's sweet and generous and doesn't)

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Love doesn't make the world go 'round; love is what makes the ride worthwhile.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, July 25, 2008 12:04 AM

Slow, that's what you call it. I call it unusable. Honestly, if you don't have the time to maintain a site, than why not accept one of the many offers to hand off development (and/or help)? Then perhaps the users wouldn't have to deal with the nonsense of having the site go down or otherwise unavailable several times a year because of things which are entirely preventable.

Now Sig. Its his site, we are lucky he lets us sponge off him and we should all say thank you for his hard work.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

CHINDI

Friday, July 25, 2008 2:00 AM

Hmmm.. I just wanted to add my thanks.. I still love this site the best.. and I agree.. a little show of some moentary affection might be real nice right about now..

so thank you Hakken.. and see Paypal for my other thanks!

WYTCHCROFT

Friday, July 25, 2008 2:20 AM

rubs eyes - blurry - slurry what now? hmm?
oh yeah - WE LOVE YOU HAKEN WE DO!:)

returns to limey land slumber...

vumps while dreaming (but that's another story).

This is my favourite site - i've said it before and I'll keep saying it as long it's needed.

Rock on Haken
Rock on our BDHs

and go us!:)

SIGMANUNKI

Friday, July 25, 2008 2:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

Now Sig. Its his site, we are lucky he lets us sponge off him and we should all say thank you for his hard work.

Really. Perhaps you should read his first response on this thread. As in, he doesn't actually do any work on this site and obviously hasn't for years. All he does is "fix" things when the site goes south.

Take that how you want, but those are the facts. Criticising him for facts is hardly out of line. In fact, it's part of the normal process of improving things. Again, I reference his first post on this thread in which he explicitly states that he won't, for whatever reason, improve things himself and worse yet, has refused all offers of help.

This isn't exactly respectful to the sites users. Especially since accepting help would have prevented or minimized all problems seen over the years.

I have no doubt that if this was an OSS software project, it would have been forked a long time ago. Because, that's what happens with "management" such as this. Unfortunately, domains can't be and there are probably copyright issues with some of the content here. So, sadly, it isn't going to happen even though this site desperately needs a rewrite.

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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

HAKEN

Friday, July 25, 2008 3:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Honestly, if you don't have the time to maintain a site, than why not accept one of the many offers to hand off development (and/or help)? Then perhaps the users wouldn't have to deal with the nonsense of having the site go down or otherwise unavailable several times a year because of things which are entirely preventable.

FFF.NET is written in MS ASP (not ASP.NET), which hasn't been used for website development for the last several years. I hated it immensely and I'm not sure if I want to put people through that hell either.

Some forget that this site was just a fun little fansite project I did on my Windows workstation because ASP and IIS was available on it. It was never meant to be "the site" for the series.
Fox and Universal had the official sites, likely developed by professional development teams, and was served up by hosting companies with lots of bandwidth.

Since we're on the subject, are the official sites still on the web? For a while someone was supposed to take over the operation of it. I haven't checked in a while.

In any case, yeah, lots of things are probably preventable, but having kept the site going all these years (it's been 5 years since the series was canceled), I think a little nonsense is forgivable every now and then, right?

Besides, if anyone would like to develop a website, I would rather they invest the effort into something new. Perhaps build a site for Joss' Dollhouse--not continue building a site for a long canceled series in a defunct scripting language for a platform that cost way too much.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, July 25, 2008 3:44 AM

Sorry Haken, I didn't say that! That was Sig.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

"Yes-- Cheney are Bush are men of peace-- this we know. It is terrible that their good deeds are being thwarted, misinterpreted-- so much so that they are forced to direct others to torture prisoners." Professor Michael Levine

HAKEN

Friday, July 25, 2008 4:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Sorry Haken, I didn't say that! That was Sig.

I should have read better. My apologies.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, July 25, 2008 4:23 AM

de nada

*FMF faints dead away with the knowledge that the great and wonderful Haken has spoken to her*

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

"Yes-- Cheney are Bush are men of peace-- this we know. It is terrible that their good deeds are being thwarted, misinterpreted-- so much so that they are forced to direct others to torture prisoners." Professor Michael Levine

SERGEANTX

Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM

Frankly, I'm appalled that Sigma's needs are not being met.

Haken must be punished! I propose a two-week suspension be instituted immediately. Then, if he makes a full public apology, we'll consider letting him administer our site again.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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