Has News Always Been This Bad?

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MIIKE

Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:13 PM

contolling the world through media? i really dont think people can be controlled through the things they watch as most people weigh up what they are being told by the media in their own minds .most people who pick a nework for news because they like the presenters be it housewife fancies anchorman or a guy likes the weather girl.also others choose a network because the news will reflect their own views(preaching to the converted ). finally the bbc is no bastion of independent news as its staff have a very left wing bias which is reflected in its portrayal of the news.

im just going out,i may be some time

CAUSAL

Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:31 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
It's infotainment.

Agreed. Check out Neil Postman's book Amusing Ourselves to Death. Great analysis of the effects of television, and televised news in particular.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:52 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Much worse before, and many didn't even know it.
Fox News Channel really helped balance things out, and free access to information via the internet also helped clarify.

Wow, such animosity by liberals towards the free flow of information, which torpedoes most of their hokum theories.
Most with their eyes open knew that free access to info via internet would be the death knell of looney liberalism, but most liberals had such tunnel vision that they did not see it coming, welcomed free info access, and were bewildered that the more info available, the less tenable their assumptions, all the open info dashed their fantasies and delusions which were the foundations of liberalism.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by miike:
contolling the world through media? i really dont think people can be controlled through the things they watch as most people weigh up what they are being told by the media in their own minds

Of course you are correct. Every business in world history has been completely idiotic to advertize, pay for advertisement, and think it might increase their customer volume. Who could possibly think that mere images broadcast could alter a viewers perspective.
Should I assume you have bought your wife a diamond, the proof of the biggest scam using media to control the world view? Wonder why such a wise person would buy a worthless bauble as a diamond for an exhorbitant price.

CITIZEN

Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:42 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Wow, such animosity by liberals towards the free flow of information, which torpedoes most of their hokum theories.
Most with their eyes open knew that free access to info via internet would be the death knell of looney liberalism, but most liberals had such tunnel vision that they did not see it coming, welcomed free info access, and were bewildered that the more info available, the less tenable their assumptions, all the open info dashed their fantasies and delusions which were the foundations of liberalism.

Wow, such animosity from the authoritarian far right fringe, who hate the unbiased reporting of data, and embrace only crazy conspiracy websites because they say the lies they want to hear.
Most with their eyes open thought that the free access to information via the internet would be the death knell of bigotted unthinking far right lunatic neo-conism, and welcomed free info access, but were bewildered when the bigotted evil perpetuated itself and it's followers continued to show their poor grasp of reality by ignoring all but the evil that made them feel good about their arrogant ignorance. Despite anyone with a brain now having access to the truth that destroys the foundations of lies, hypocrisy, murder and evil that is the underpinning neo-conism, these crazies still march in lock step, denying thought, human decency and rationality, while delighting in the murder and rape of other people.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:04 PM

yada yada Cit...

Enough with the idle chatter.

Bottom line: I don't trust any news source here or overseas.

There are a lot influential people who have subtle influences on what news gets out and what spin is put on it. I'm not saying it's all lies. I'm not even saying a majority of it is lies. It's most likely true that a majority of 99 and an infinite stream of decimals % of what we see that is true.

It's just that .0111656781688% and whatever else we'll never be privy to that I'm interested in.

I'm not being nationalistic here. I never once said that my countries news outlets had more integrity. In fact, I never once mentioned a positive note about them. I'm just wondering why, other than "Because I said so" you feel that your media outlets are morally superior to any of the "Jerry Springer for Adults" 24/7 news networks over here.

Maybe you should have an open mind and realize that the BBC is just another propoganda machine. Whether it's more benovolent or sophisticated than CNN, MSNBC or FOX is not within the scope of my point here, and I wouldn't feel comfortable even commenting on those opinions because, other than my own personal ideals, I don't have complete data with which to make such a judgement.

None of us really do...

P.S. Lay off the spelling man. The troll outfit doesn't suit you. Besides, nobody is paying me to be editor for my meanderings...

And I know I said "countries" when I should have said "country's" but I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of changing it.....

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CITIZEN

Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:26 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Maybe you should have an open mind and realize that the BBC is just another propoganda machine. Whether it's more benovolent or sophisticated than CNN, MSNBC or FOX is not within the scope of my point here, and I wouldn't feel comfortable even commenting on those opinions because, other than my own personal ideals, I don't have complete data with which to make such a judgement.

I'm not the one making judgements on zero data. That's closed minded. What I said to you is before you make up your mind, actually go out and educate yourself on the topic, I'm sorry the suggestion that you actually know what you're talking about before you spout off is insulting to you. My mind, as I have demonstrated time and again, is quite open enough. As long as people present a case, rather than saying "All media outlets are bad, because I say so, and I know the same is true of all of them even if I haven't seen them." I'm willing to listen. The only person saying "because I say so" is you jack. I made a joke, but seriously said "find out for yourself before making a decision". Since then you've picked at the joke as if I was being serious, and ignored the whole "go find out for yourself" thing entirely. So you tell me, as a self professed Anarchist/Libertarian/Whateverthehellyouarethisweekian, why are you so unwilling to find out for yourself? Or has prisonplanet already told you what to believe Jack? Because you've so far just managed to throw a massive wobbly because I suggested you find out for yourself, sorry if the suggestion that you don't know everything already is upsetting to you, but you really don't. All you're doing is confirming my charge of closed mindedness, saying "I'm rubber you're glue" doesn't refute that, not being closed minded and testing your assumptions would.

How about, before you tell me I'm making statements like "because I say it is", you put your money where your mouth is, and back up your charge that all outlets are the same propaganda filled lie factories? Or am I supposed to just take that on face value because you say so?

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P.S. Lay off the spelling man. The troll outfit doesn't suit you. Besides, nobody is paying me to be editor for my meanderings...

And I know I said "countries" when I should have said "country's" but I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of changing it.....

I didn't attack your spelling, so lay off the lies.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:36 PM

blah blah again Cit.

I know you're too smart to believe what you hear on cable news or the BBC. Just admit it.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CITIZEN

Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:51 PM

Blah blah blah Six.

I'd like to think you weren't so closed minded that you'd listen to a word someone other than you said, but evidently not.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

MIIKE

Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:30 PM

i only listen to alex jones and infowars.com they speak the truth with a balanced and fair insight and the quality of the journalism is highly proffesional. with a cool and calm persona alex is the only man ill take my news from thats why ive got a mountain of tinned food 100 gallons of botteled water and a shotgun ready for jesus's return

im just going out,i may be some time

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