Vote for Firefly (FF, Buffy & Angel are in Top10)! XLVII

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FLATTOP

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:58 PM

No improvements. Stats after I get home vump.

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:02 PM

Just got into work vump with a nom to Moonlight.

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TRAEVYNN

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:08 PM

Mother vumpin' WinXP! It is evil and must be destroyed.
(Actually, I'd rather have that on my 'puter than Vista which I detest with a passion.)

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LEOPARDFLAN

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:35 PM

Hey, I have Vista, play nicely.

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:16 PM

Vump and a nom for Red Dwarf.

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RAYCHEETAH

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:28 PM

Mid-afternoon VOMP!

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TRAEVYNN

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:30 PM

Vomp and off to a meeting.
Sorry Leopard, I'll try not to get all 'bendy' about Vista.

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SISTER

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:45 PM

have a Mac myownself vump. Still not sure of all the good it can do, though.

FLATTOP

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:02 PM

Thank you ladies for your kind thoughts. Dunno how I'm going to get around this one, but I'll keep after it. I'll just do a Kaylee & start pulling out bits until what's left works again, put back all but the last & patch in the hole.

Had to get XP to be able to use 1 software package, but now several others are broken. *LOL* They pay me the same for fighting with the computer or fixing the phone net.

Break Winblow$, take a bite out of Apple - use Linux!

Wednesday's Numbers

Total Votes (Range to nearest show)
Firefly(1): 691,002 (0)
Xena(2): 532,448 (-158,554)

Extending Rate Today (Wk.Avg.) 239DAvg.
Firefly(1): -->Xena(2): 606 (507) 504
…Fastest Closure (November 2, 2007): 999
Closest Daily: Jericho(8): 649 (-462)
Closest Weekly: Jericho(8): 647 (-350)
Closest Overall: Jericho(8): 607 (-405)

Days to Intercept Today (Wk.Avg.) 239DAvg.
Anybody: ()

Firefly(1): 1,111 (997) 1,012
…Best Day (March 7, 2007): 2,359
…Last Day NOT Highest Daily Vote Show: April 29, 2007
...Consecutive days > 1,000: 2
……Longest Run > 1,000 votes/day: 75 Record for all time best!

Jericho(8): 649 (647) 607
…Best Day (March 19, 2008): 1,010
Buffy the Vampire Slayer(6): 597 (622) 505
Angel(10): 558 (543) 431
Bonanza(3): 581 (531) 501
…Best Day (March 29, 2007): 1,185
Battlestar Galactica(5): 530 (509) 498
Xena(2): 505 (490) 508
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,803 Record for all time best!
Farscape(7): 381 (401) 336
The X-Files(9): 324 (351) 288
Gunsmoke(4): 371 (314) 379

Terminator: SCC(n54): 5,818 total, 47 (45) 20

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:18 PM

Vump and a nom for Moonlight

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LEOPARDFLAN

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:40 PM

Vump

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WYTCHCROFT

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:08 PM

one giant vump for cat kind

SISTER

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:13 PM

summer squash from the garden for dinner tonight vump

RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:21 PM

Vump and a nom for Red Dwarf

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FLATTOP

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:44 PM

Thunderstorm rolling in, time to power down vump.

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RAYCHEETAH

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:23 PM

Still on the laptop, VOMP!

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RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:29 PM

Summer squash sounds yummy vump with a nom to Moonlight.

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TRAEVYNN

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wytchcroft:

one giant vump for cat kind

Now I know what my kitty does when I'm at work!
Back from seeing a patient and now eating a really late lunch VOMP!

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SISTER

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:22 PM

we need some of those thunderstorms here, if they contain rain - vump.

RALLEM

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:41 PM

Vump and a nom for Moonlight

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MAGDALENA

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:42 PM

They certainly contained rain in Boston! VUMP!

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WYTCHCROFT

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:42 PM

vump!

FLATTOP

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:30 AM

Just enough rain to wet the roads vump.

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RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:51 AM

Think of it as liquid sunshine and it makes your day that much brighter vump with a nom for Red Dwarf.

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WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:10 AM

VUMP!:)

RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:30 AM

VOMPin' the night away!

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LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:53 AM

Vump

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RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:58 AM

Last vump of the night with a nom to Moonlight. I am now going home to watch a couple episodes of Red Dwarf before bedtime.

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FLATTOP

Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:01 AM

Off to bed vump. G'night all.

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RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:25 AM

Salad can be a delicious snack, VOMP!

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RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:27 AM

'Nother VOMP!

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RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:24 AM

Hat trick VOMP!

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FREEBROWNCOAT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:25 AM

Rather an ionteresting day with some good human work accomplished.

Captain Tightpants would be proud.

FLATTOP

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:04 AM

Nice hat you've got there Ray!
On my way out the door vump.

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WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:42 AM

in through the out door

vump!

FLATTOP

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:57 AM

It's seems that I was busy doing something close to vumping.

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SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:02 AM

waking up - more coffee - vump

SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:24 PM

loves my wake-up juice vump

RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:21 PM

Mornin' stats VOMP!

Firefly is now four days AHEAD of schedule!

Based on RL's announcement that he will end the Polls when the combined total votes between the Top 40 and the Nominations reaches 10 million (but no later than January 2, 2009), 56.26 (55.94) days remain to vote, based on current rates of voting (as with everything else in this Poll, this time will fluctuate).

Our ultimate goal, 750,000 votes, is 57,901 (58,998) votes, and 52.78 (53.1) days away! We're AHEAD of our target date by four days, and need to maintain a daily average of 1,016 (1,054) votes to stay on track! Let's not get complacent and slack off; instead, let's work to pad our margin!

At this point, every vote we fail to cast is lost forever; we won't always have "tomorrow" to make it up! We're approaching the end of a marathon race, getting ready to sprint toward the finish, and we all need to continue pushing just a little harder, to stay on pace for 750,000 votes by the end of the Poll!

http://richlabonte.net/tvvote

http://www.richlabonte.net/tvvote

http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html

ALL three links work for voting, so if you have trouble, you can try an alternate address instead.

You can vote for more as many Top 40 shows as you like, once every hour. You can only nominate one show per hour, at:

http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/nominations.html

Download the FlyVote voting timer, a NEW version of the program. It'll remind you when it's time to vote, each hour: http://usbmicro.com/misc

Votes are counted per network IP, so, don't go to the library or your office and vote hourly on each computer on the subnet, or all votes will be thrown out; multiple votes on rotating IPs will likewise be rejected.

Top two shows as of this morning:

(Statistics in parentheses are previous day's stats, for comparison purposes)

Total votes Firefly: 692,099 (691,002)

Yesterday, Browncoats voted 1,097 (1,111) times, 14 fewer than the previous day. An excellent job, keeping us on course! We have less than two months left to vote, Browncoats; if every one of us voted just once more per day, it would help ensure achieving 750k!

Total votes Xena: 532,964 (532,448)

Yesterday, Xenites voted 516 (505) times, 11 more than the previous day.

(Xenites voted 581 (606) times fewer than Browncoats, yesterday.)

Firefly is 159,135 (158,554) votes ahead of Xena, more than the vote total of #19 show Ponderosa 158,273. That puts us at 15,865 (16,446) votes away from a 175,000 vote lead, about 27.31 (27.14) days, based on current voting.

We'll get our next banner, for 695,000 votes, in another 2,901 (3,998) votes, and another 2.64 (3.6) days!

7,570,917 (7,557,501) Top 40 votes have been counted as of 06/26/08. Yesterday, 13,406 (13,678) votes were cast. Our share of the voting pie remains at 9%.

In other TV Vote news (shows whose voters also support Firefly and the Whedonverse, so, let's return the favor, shiny? We accomplish more together than we would separately! Let's continue to support our friends! Browncoats never leave a friend behind!):

#5 show Battlestar Galactica got 507 (530) votes, and, is currently receiving enough votes to overtake #4 show, Gunsmoke, which got 397 (371) votes, yesterday, in 139.4 (97.13) days.

#6 show Buffy the Vampire Slayer got 629 (597) votes, yesterday, not receiving enough votes to pass BSG by the end of the Poll.

#10 show Angel got 527 (558) votes, yesterday, and is on track to pass #9 show The X-Files, which got 348 (334) votes, in 9.75 (8.59) days.

#14 show Babylon 5 got 406 (421) votes, yesterday, and is on track to pass La Femme Nikita, which got 205 (204) votes, in 16.79 (16.47) days!

#27 show Dark Shadows got 378 (397) votes, yesterday, receiving enough votes to to pass #26 show Star Trek: The Next Generation, which got 208 (228) votes, in 2.24 (3.26) days.

Thanks for the awesome help! Dark Shadows still needs your ongoing support!

#36 show Blood Ties got 633 (717) votes, yesterday, and is on track to pass #35 show The

SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:36 PM

keep vumping!

WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:07 PM

vump for keeps:)

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:28 PM

Waking up late vump with a nom to Red Dwarf

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LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:13 PM

vump

Good Morning is an oxymoron!!

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SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:21 PM

wish me luck - off to pick up newly spayed kitty - and attempt introductions to five dogs - lordy - vump.

TRAEVYNN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:44 PM

I feel sorry for the dogs. That little cat will whip them into shape and their world will never be the same.
Sister - how's the new-ish puppy doing lately?

vomp and a sip of go juice.

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RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:53 PM

Vump and a nom for Moonlight

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LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:12 PM

Tired and bored vump

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SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:20 PM

Trae - new puppy is doing wonderfully - although she DID have a small accident in the house this morning - (perhaps she knew the kitty was coming home?) - Currently four dogs are GLUED to the laundry room door (which is closed) while Tweet (the cat) is huddled BEHIND the dryer - more reports as the day continues.
Vump (in one minute, when I can)

WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:42 PM

Vump - you got some serious animals goin' down sister!

TRAEVYNN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:46 PM

Heh...I'd love to see a picture of four dogs staring intently at the laundry room door.
Poor kitty.

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"...I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:00 PM

Going to work vump with a nom to Red Dwarf

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LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:18 PM

Vump

Poor kitten...

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SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:59 PM

vump - dogs glued to laundry room door now reduced to three. No sound from kitty. Will be taking some tuna to kitty shortly to tempt her from behind the dryer - *sigh*
Of the dogs we actually sought - we have three - the other two are 'rescues' - one from a bad situation where she was not wanted - the other (like the new kitty) just 'showed up' at our door. Where we live (in the country) animals get 'dumped' - so sad - makes you hate your own species.

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:14 PM

Just got into work vump with a nom to Moonlight

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TRAEVYNN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:15 PM

Many years ago when I lived in rural Georgia, half our pets were from dung-eating low-lifes who view animals as disposible and just dumped them out of the car as they drove down the road.
Pieces of shit; each and every one of them and what they did will come back to them threefold.
*end rant*
Vomp and a gold star to Sister for taking in thems as needs it.

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"...I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."

LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:21 PM

Vump, and glomps for those who have taken in animals in need

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KNIGHTREYEDER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:24 PM

Vumps :-) and vote(s) for Serenity.

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WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:37 PM

vump:)

SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:08 PM

(*blush*) Thank you! Kitty out from behind dryer - knows the 'whats what' of litter pan (YAY) - curled up in catnip cat bed - dogs still bemused. vump

FREEBROWNCOAT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:30 PM

FIREFLY. All we ever need. Freedom to do what we have to.

"It's the popular theory."

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:38 PM

Vump and a nom for Moonlight

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WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sister:
vump - dogs glued to laundry room door now reduced to three. No sound from kitty.

Ai ya - what are you DOING!!!!??? (heh heh)

vump!

SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:35 PM

hmmmm...as long as the dogs are out - doors are closed everybody seems okay - since kitty just had surgery yesterday - I'm going to leave her in the laundry room (with many cuddle visits) before she's allowed free roam of the house; dogs are going to have to deal.
vump
Things sure get interesting around here - husband involved in a fender-bender - there goes the insurance rate. Ah well, if it's not one thing - yada, yada, yada.

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:39 PM

Vump and a nom for Red Dwarf. Is your cat new to the household? I don't own a cat now, and only have a yellow lab right now, but while I was growing up my family had an english setter and a black cat and the two got along great. They used to cuddle at night to keep each other warm because my parents had them sleep in the garage.

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RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:57 PM

Gettin' ready for the gym, VOMP!

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RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:38 PM

vump and a nom for Moonlight.

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SISTER

Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:47 PM

Rallem - yes the kitty - we're calling her "tweet' as that's what she sounds like when she 'talks' - just showed up this past weekend - My husband says he'd seen her 'around' the place for about a month to six weeks - so I guess she needed to 'work' up the courage to come and say hi - she's obviously been around people, probably was somebody's pet - in a check with our neighbors - no one claimed her so I took her to our vet for shots/tests and spaying and 'bang' - got a cat. I HAVE had dogs and cats 'together' before - just not in many years and while they don't always end up as 'friends' - there's usually been no blood-letting. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. vump.

TRAEVYNN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:09 PM

working my fingers to the bone today - much typing had ensued.
Vomp and a nod to the vamp show.

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"...I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:44 PM

I wish you all the best with your dogs and cat Sister. Vump and a nom for Red Dwarf.

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WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:06 PM

G A F F C

for Leopardflan and her pretties:)
vump!

RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:35 PM

Leopard does very nicely with the pretties, VOMP!

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LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:39 PM

What does GAFFC stand for? And thanks ^_^

RALLEM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:44 PM

Vump and a nom for Moonlight

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WYTCHCROFT

Friday, June 27, 2008 12:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
What does GAFFC stand for? And thanks ^_^

musical notes my dear (one for each of your fab creations!)
from close encounters (i am that cheesy!)
use em to contact the multi dimensional midgets with their pretty lights -

if i rememebr the film right you can also use uh, sanskrit
and odd hand gestures!:)

vump!

RAYCHEETAH

Friday, June 27, 2008 12:36 AM

Cheetah is from the Sanskrit "chitrakaya," mottled body, VOMP!

Dunno what is cheetah in odd hand gestures.

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LEOPARDFLAN

Friday, June 27, 2008 12:36 AM

Aww ^_^

RALLEM

Friday, June 27, 2008 12:46 AM

Vump and a nom for Red Dwarf.

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TRAEVYNN

Friday, June 27, 2008 1:07 AM

Having banana cream pie for dinner vomp. And don't feel one iota guilty about it!

~~~~~
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"...I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."

WYTCHCROFT

Friday, June 27, 2008 1:11 AM

leaping about like a fool tryna play along to cheer down by george harrison -
vump and ta ra from this end of the shift for now -

and handing back to our regular presenters

RAYCHEETAH

Friday, June 27, 2008 1:43 AM

Just noticed my timer spit out its battery, delaying my VOMP!

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RALLEM

Friday, June 27, 2008 1:54 AM

Good night vump and a nom for Moonlight. I probably won't be on much tomorrw since I am taking my Niece to Burlington Vermont then, but I will try to give a vump before I leave.

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FLATTOP

Friday, June 27, 2008 1:55 AM

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