If you like Bush & what he's done to this world, you are evil.
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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 19:38
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'Rap, I wasn't trying to be facetious or snarky. I haven't read the full resolution yet, not every word of it, but I scanned it looking for key phrases, and I haven't found them. If you have and can point them out, please do.
We argue back and forth a lot about what's said and what's written, and what's actually MEANT by it, and this could be a good time to actually look at the words as they were written, to see if there's some point of contention we can agree on - or agree to disagree on.
Mike
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I wasn't sure what a UN resolution authorizing use of UN force would look like so I selected a few instances where the UN actually sent in troops. For comparison, here is a UN resolution on establishing a protection force in Macedonia
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Authorizes the Secretary-General to establish a presence of the United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR) in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, as recommended by him in his report (S/24923), and so to inform the authorities of Albania and those of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)
http://faq.macedonia.org/politics/un.resolutions.html#795
Here is a similar resolution on establishing a force in Darfur
Quote:www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article23083
1. Decides, in support of the early and effective implementation of the Darfur Peace Agreement and the outcome of the negotiations foreseen in paragraph 18, to authorise and mandate the establishment, for an initial period of 12 months, of an AU/UN Hybrid operation in Darfur (UNAMID) as set out in this resolution and pursuant to the report of the Secretary-General and the Chairperson of the African Union Commission of 5 June 2007, and further decides that the mandate of UNAMID shall be as set out in paragraphs 54 and 55 of the report of the Secretary General and the Chairperson of the African Union Commission of 5 June 2007
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"And how many people have left this board for the very same reason?"
What reason is that ?
I DO know of some people who have left b/c of others who were extremely vile and hateful.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Rapo: So, ignore reality much, do you?
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Why would you say such a clearly ridiculous and unsubstantiated thing ?
Dork.
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So, have you found the pasage in Resolution 1441 that authorizes use of force in Iraq?
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Quote:Hey Rapo... ignore reality much, do ya?
Why would you say such a clearly ridiculous and unsubstantiated thing
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, have you found the pasage in Resolution 1441 that authorizes use of force in Iraq?
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Already explained that , way up in the thread. Not gonna repeat this any more. Sorry.
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Already explained that , way up in the thread. Not gonna repeat this any more. Sorry.
I guess he couldn't find it, which is understandable, because it's not there.
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Quote:Yeah, you explained how we should read what was written in the Resolution, not pay attention to what our Ambassador (or anyone else) "said". I presume that means we should ignore you too?
Already explained that , way up in the thread.
So, I went to the last comprehensive statement by the UN concerning Iraq's compliance with it's several resolutions. The resolution that described what the UN was going to do from that moment forward, taking into account all previous resolutions and Iraq's response. The definitive word, according to you. And what I read was: If we have any more problems we will MEET AGAIN TO DISCUSS THEM. I thought the wording was very clear.
But since I wasn't sure whether there was something buried in UN-speak... some sort of code-phrase that I might not be picking up on... I found a couple of other resolutions authorizing use of force, just to see if the intent was spelled out in language I could understand. It was.
So using YOUR logic (read the Resolution).... I did. So did Kwicko, and so did a lot of people here. And neither they NOR YOU have quoted anything in Resolution 1441 that authorizes use of force. So what should we believe? "The contract"? Or your fervered intepretation?
If you once again say that the UN authorized use of force I will call you a LIAR. You haven't backed up that statement with ANY credible evidence. You've been challenged and you have definitively failed, even on your own criteria.
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