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What Question Would You Most Like To See Answerd In Serenity?

POSTED BY: DarkHood
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 20:58
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NEROLI

Saturday, May 8, 2004 9:02 PM

I thought it would take two...but the question then is...how did they get in the light bulb?

Now, back to the topic...I don't want any of the questions answered. I would kill for some more clues and hints on Book, River and Inara. But no outright answers yet, save those for the BDS return!!!

GUNHAND

Saturday, May 8, 2004 9:53 PM

I want to see more Book stuff but not all the Book stuff if you know what I mean.

Plus I want it finally confirmed that it's more than one star system. To my mind it has to, if they were looking at a map (even on that isn't a real map of the 'Verse as the press kit suggests) well that screams to me more than one solar system. Wouldn't need a map to get around in one solar system, maybe a "where are the planets right now" rotational computer program but not a map with lots of stars and whatnot on it.

Oh and I'll second about what the Full Burn entails, I think it's a FTL drive but probably something closer to a warp drive not hyperspace because ships pass one another and can see/interact with one another waaaay out.

Ummm, what else, oh yeah more Book stuff.

One thing I was wondering about was if they'll subtitle the Chinese. In an odd way I hope not, but for people that never saw the show but see the movie it could make them wonder what was up with that.

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DELIA

Sunday, May 9, 2004 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by Gunhand:
Plus I want it finally confirmed that it's more than one star system. To my mind it has to, if they were looking at a map (even on that isn't a real map of the 'Verse as the press kit suggests) well that screams to me more than one solar system. Wouldn't need a map to get around in one solar system, maybe a "where are the planets right now" rotational computer program but not a map with lots of stars and whatnot on it.

This is one of those things I've never worried too much about -- I'm not a real scientific type, so I don't concern myself with what gavalxy vs. solar system or keeps the ship flying or how fast is goes or whatever (so anything short of an engine is full of little hamster wheels I'm okay with). I do have to say that when I do think about it (the solar system questions) I never thought it was all supposed to be one -- "more that 70 earths" (inhabitable planets/moons) in one solar system struck me as improbable, seeing as how we've only got the one here.

GUNHAND

Sunday, May 9, 2004 9:51 PM

Well as someone who occasionally inflicts a RPG set in the 'Verse on my friends the geography question is something I'd like to have settled. Just so I can stop threatening them when they start debating it when we should be doing other stuff like drinking beer and pretending they're flying around on their own Firefly.

It actually could be one system if some of the "moons" they talk about are terraformed asteroids.

Or it could be a close cluster of stars, without FTL drives but the star systems are so close that just kicking up to .9 of light speed would be good enough to get you from one to another quickly. I read somewhere that in the deep core of the galaxy there is a possibilty of something like that. (this is actually the one I use in my game since it lets me duck the question mostly)

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"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

SPM1138

Sunday, May 9, 2004 11:31 PM

Definitely Book.

I reckon he is a former alliance spook or something (he seems to know how to handle people like Nishka and he is able to identify a weapon from a wound. Seems way too savvy to be an officer).

Simon Tan does mention an underground movement of sorts when he describes how he got River out.

Reason I don't buy him being part of that is that his ID card gets him medical treatment on the spot and subsequent release without questions being asked.

INSIGHT SPINNER

Sunday, May 9, 2004 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by MrsSpooky:
My biggest question is just who is Book and why is he there?

In the pilot, he was wandering the docks looking at the ships, not the destinations - which Kaylee picked up on.

I think there is a reason for him being there beyond his being out of the world and wanting to walk it a while.

Is it possible he was looking for Mal? When Mal confronted Simon in the cargo bay accusing him of being a Fed, Book was right there "you've got the wrong man, captain." How did he know, unless he knew Lawrence was the fed?

A thought has been bouncing around my big, hollow skull that maybe Book is either spying on, or looking after Mal for some reason. I'd love to find out - even a hint!

"I'll be in my bunk"

I thought he saw Lawrence with his gun out. Mal was facing toward Book. Simon was getting hit, so what would he know about it? And Lawrence was coming up behind Mal. There is a beat, that makes you think Book knows something -- but then we know he knows what he knows because of what he sees.

That said, I want answers to questions in the book of Book,too.

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ZOID

Monday, May 10, 2004 12:53 AM

DarkHood, et ma famille:

Good question. I would really love to see Firefly return to series TV (preferably on CBS); however, transcripts of the Blackpool confab that circulated here last week had Nathan saying a return to TV wasn't do-able because Fox (soft 'u' sound) still have the rights to a show they didn't want or understand. They apparently want a diamond the size of a testicle to let it go to another network (and I'd like to get my hands on Ms. Berman's). BTW, y'all do realize she got her start at Fox by producing BtVS, right? Talk about stabbing your artists in the back! So, Nathan says look for three movies, if the first one does well; because we'll all be taking the 'dirt nap' before Fox admit they're wrong and bring it back, or have the decency to let a competitor do justice by it.

Now, if it returns to TV, I want as few questions answered outright as possible. Just throw us a few more clues on everything. Joss has said this is the kind of movie we're going to get: a springboard for a series return. Heck, he was planning on just finishing up as much of the 'big arc' stuff as he could in a 2-hour feature; but, then he did a complete rewrite at Universal's urging. So, who really knows what convoluted negotiations are going on behind the scenes?

On the other hand, if it is indeed going to be a trilogy to finish the story, we're going to have to see some serious exposition on some of the questions FFFn regulars have been "(re)hashing" as one pundit put it, in spare moments between truly insightful political harangues (as if). Morena reportedly said we'd be getting Book's and Inara's "backstory" in this first of three(?) movies. This probably means no more mysteries about what Book was before becoming a minister, or why Inara decided to leave Sihnon. We'll find out once and for all that Book was General Richard Wilkins, and that he's not a spy or assassin or bounty hunter (heh,heh,heh). We'll find out once and for all that Inara left Sihnon because she's sick... of selling herself to rich people to wipe their genitals on. She may have perfectly valid moralizations to justify what she does, but her clientele don't. They see her soul as a tasty morsel to be devoured along with her tender flesh.

These revelations would leave us getting more 'clues only' material, in terms of what River actually was being deconstructed to do for Alliance/BlueSun. 'Clues only' for what Blue Hands actually are. 'Clues only' for what Alliance/BlueSun's agenda for its constituency is. 'Clues only' about the Independent Resistance movement (like those who helped Simon spring River from the Academy) and their timetable for action. As Mal put it on U-Day, "I'd say we'll rise again."

Morena and Nathan both indicated that Reavers would be involved; but it's too early to speculate whether we'll get proper clarification on their motivations in this movie, rather than just more clues, or even just more of the 'boogie man' treatment.

As far as the romances go, I suspect they'll be left unresolved, although there may possibly be some physical conjugations of verbs not permitted on TV. ;) I'd rather see action on this front, less on the battlefield. At least, I hope someone shows the perfectly beautiful Gina Torres how to hold a rifle and present a low profile. Speaking of Giiiinnnaaah!: Could we possibly work in a song for her? Ms. Torres-Fishburne is a classically trained mezzosoprano and it'd be too cool to hear her flex her pipes in the film. Maybe they could then have Inara join in soulfully, since Morena apparently can't carry a tune in a bucket. How funny would that be?

One thing's certain: I'm going to be at the theatre on opening night, and often thereafter. Some movies don't warrant repeat viewings. Based on the TV series' lasting viewability, I suspect I'll have to see the movie a number of times, and then buy the DVD, just to wring all the clues from the film.

Both Fox's and now Universal's production companies are in love with Joss/Tim/ME. This should get J/T/ME's f

MRSSPOOKY

Monday, May 10, 2004 1:04 AM

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...Simon was getting hit, so what would he know about it? And Lawrence was coming up behind Mal. There is a beat, that makes you think Book knows something -- but then we know he knows what he knows because of what he sees.
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No doubt.

Of course they were all told to stay out of the cargo bay unless they were escorted. Nobody had escorted Book to the bay, yet he was there anyway.

Others had said that Book could have been there looking after Simon and River. I thought of that too, except it's not clear from the episode who came first, Book or Simon. Book was presumably aboard before Mal, Zoe and Janye returned from Badger's because we see Wash bringing Simon's cargo aboard (River) with the mule when they arrive. That's when we first see Dobson.

We didn't see Dobson arranging the ride, or in what order Simon, Book and Dobson made their arrangements. Since Dobson was there following Simon and River, MAYBE Book was the last one on board. We just don't know.

It makes sense that Book was former Alliance in some capacity, and I love the idea that he was part of some underground anti-Alliance group. Huge, overbearing (probably overtaxing) government like that is ripe for sedition.

I don't want ALL my questions answered either, like others have posted. At least, I don't want them answered until they've made all the Firefly movies that they are going to make.

I HOPE we get a trilogy out of this if it's not coming back to weekly television. Personally, I think I prefer a series, but I'll take the trilogy.

I just ruttin' love this show!

"I'll be in my bunk"

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GUNHAND

Monday, May 10, 2004 1:10 AM

Good points as always Zoid.

And I was thinking about the dreaded O-word award as well the other day. Since the success of Lord of the Rings I think that the Acadamy may be reviewing their aversion to Sci-Fi/Fantasy. Which is a good thing because:

a) There are already so many Sci-Fi/Fantasy movies coming out soon thinking that just the genre itself gives them a leg up. This ain't necessarilly so, but it does open the door to good Sci-Fi/Fantasy having a shot.

b) Firefly was as good or better than most movies when it was on TV so I'm damn near tingly at contemplating how good it'll be on the big screen. So combine a and b and you come to...

c) Nathan Fillion, that man is going to be a Major Star one of these days, whether or not it's the BDM that finally gets people to pay attention to him or not (and I suspect it will be) that man can act. I mean he can say more without saying anything than 99% of the actors with little statues can get across with a 5 minute scene chewing exposition.

My prediction: Serenity does not only well, but significantly well at the box office which leads to a back-to-back filming of II and III, and the DVD sales will rock the house adding even more cash to the warchest. The success of these results in some Big Damn Awards for the cast/crew/films which gives them not only the money but the clout (and that's as important as cash in Hollywood) to leverage TV rights out of Fox.

Universal seems stoked about all things Firefly, and if you can prove to them that not only were they right in picking it up but it can have franchise potential then you can bet your bippie they'll be looking to renegotiate with Fox.

There that's my prediction.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

PBI

Monday, May 10, 2004 1:43 AM

Not sure I'd want any of the questions answered fully, maybe just give us more info, even hint at an answer or two, but not necessarily answer anything outright.

The one worry I have is that the movie will be a flop from a quality viewpoint. Just because it was good TV doesn't mean it will translate well to the big screen. Both TV and the movies have sufficiently large graveyards of producers and directors who thought because they were good in one medium, they'd be good in the other. Not saying that Joss is in that category, mind, just that it's a fear that's been living in the back of my mind.

Who knows, maybe the movie will do so well that some other network will cough up Fox's blood money and we will see Firefly back where it belongs and able to enjoy another 5-6 years of life? :)

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