If you like Bush & what he's done to this world, you are evil.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 19:38
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Originally posted by Khyron:
Heck, I'll humour you, AURaptor.
President Bush and Secretary Powell repeatedly claimed they had evidence that Iraq attempted to buy 500 tons of uranium oxide from Niger, which can be used to make fuel for nuclear reactors.
Were they lying or weren't they? You decide!
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Swing and a miss. They never " repeatedly " claimed they had such evidence, but all Bush did was refer to what the BRITISH were saying, per THEIR intelligence. And the Brits, to this DAY , still say Iraq was seeking to buy Yellowcake from Niger, the exact same place they got it the 1st time Iraq tried to build a nuclear reactor, back in 1980.
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Wrong Sig. All I'm concerned about is partisan zealots making claims about The President lying, but not being able to back up such wild, absurd and fictional claims.
It's really just that simple.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Swing and a miss. They never " repeatedly " claimed they had such evidence, but all Bush did was refer to what the BRITISH were saying, per THEIR intelligence.
So because the British intel was wrong - and it was pointed out REPEATEDLY to Bush that it was indeed wrong, by many sources in the US intel industry as well as others in intel agencies in other countries - you maintain that he didn't lie. He just said something that he knew was untrue, which is so completely different than lying...
I don't think it's a viable legal defense that you didn't commit the crime if you didn't know it was a crime when you committed it. You seem to be saying that if he didn't know it was a lie, then it wasn't a lie.
Also, Bush has publicly come out and said in recent weeks that global warming exists, and mankind has contributed to it. Now, given your long-standing stance that global warming is a lie, a myth, a left-wing conspiracy, and simply doesn't exist, I have to ask - is Bush lying, or are YOU?
That has nothing to do with the run-up to war, but you have stated repeatedly that "Bush never lied". Now you seem to want to parse your words and amend your earlier statements. So I ask for clarification: Did Bush EVER lie, about anything?
Mike
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Quote:First you said it was about Bush lying. Then you said it was limited to lying about Iraq. Now you seem to be generalizing the topic again. What's your point?
Wrong Sig. All I'm concerned about is partisan zealots making claims about The President lying, but not being able to back up such wild, absurd and fictional claims.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Swing and a miss. They never " repeatedly " claimed they had such evidence, but all Bush did was refer to what the BRITISH were saying, per THEIR intelligence.
So because the British intel was wrong - and it was pointed out REPEATEDLY to Bush that it was indeed wrong, by many sources in the US intel industry as well as others in intel agencies in other countries - you maintain that he didn't lie. He just said something that he knew was untrue, which is so completely different than lying...
The intel wasn't wrong. US sources only said that THEIR intel couldn't confirm it, meaning that they COULD NOT CONFIRM IT! That doesn't mean ti was WRONG, moron. Get that through your thick skull. He DID NOT say anything which he knew was untrue. The Brits , TO THIS DAY still maintain their intel was right. And all Bush did was correctly state that the BRITISH say Saddam was trying to buy MORE YCU from Niger, the same place Iraq bought it the FIRST DAMN TIME.
Quote:Well, you got one thing right. If Bush didn't know it was a lie, then in fact he did NOT lie! Genius!
I don't think it's a viable legal defense that you didn't commit the crime if you didn't know it was a crime when you committed it. You seem to be saying that if he didn't know it was a lie, then it wasn't a lie.
Quote:Different, irrelevant issue all together. Bush may BELIEVE global warming is valid, or he could be simply placating those who he thinks are worth placating , so he's giving them what they want to hear. Not all that rare for a politician, after all. I have no idea whether he KNOWS global warming is true or not, but I do know ONE thing.... that he's WRONG. Being WRONG does not necessarily make one a liar, now does it ?
Also, Bush has publicly come out and said in recent weeks that global warming exists, and mankind has contributed to it. Now, given your long-standing stance that global warming is a lie, a myth, a left-wing conspiracy, and simply doesn't exist, I have to ask - is Bush lying, or are YOU?
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That has nothing to do with the run-up to war, but you have stated repeatedly that "Bush never lied". Now you seem to want to parse your words and amend your earlier statements. So I ask for clarification: Did Bush EVER lie, about anything?
Mike
No, I'm not parsing my words here, you're just trying to play games here. The issue is the Iraqi war. That's all I talking about here in this thread.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:No, all you're talking about in this thread is that YOU are right about YOUR assessment of Bush's ability to tell the truth and distinguish right from wrong. It's all about YOU, AU, and YOUR inability to admit being mistaken.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The issue is the Iraqi war. That's all I talking about here in this thread.
Turn down the ego a bit and look at reality, and again, since this is MY thread, that is an order young man. Don't make me send you to your room !!!!
PapaChrisisall
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Be fun to play that " Tell me three things and make one of them a lie " game with Bush, wouldn't it....
Lets party like its 1939
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Chrissy, if you could do me the favor of simply giving ONE lie Bush told that sent us to war w/ Iraq, I'd gladly say uncle.
Just one, please.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chrissy, if you could do me the favor of simply giving ONE lie Bush told that sent us to war w/ Iraq, I'd gladly say uncle.
It works even better if you put your fingers in your ears and shout "I can't hear you!" over and over...
There have been several examples of Bush's lies in this thread, and many, many more in others over the years. All you're saying is you don't believe them - and then telling your own lies by saying no one has provided instances of Bush's.
Seriously, all you're proving with this droning refrain is your infinite capacity for delusion.
SergeantX
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Chrissy, if you could do me the favor of simply giving ONE lie Bush told that sent us to war w/ Iraq, I'd gladly say uncle.
Just one, please.
The thing is, you wouldn't say uncle. You'd attack the source and dismiss it as a left-wing attempt to lie about Bush. I've seen you do it over and over again.
What you're REALLY saying is that if someone can give you just one instance where Bush lied and it was confirmed by one of your "approved" news sources which are beholden to the far right (Fox News, NewsCorpse, et al), THEN you might accept it. Only you wouldn't, because you'd instantly brand any such news outlet or reporter as traitorous and worthy of being shot in the head.
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