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If you like Bush & what he's done to this world, you are evil.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:51 PM

There's really no discussion; if you support lies, torture & war profiteering, then you are in Congress with the Beast. You are evil by mis-interpreting reality, or by embracing greed by way of death.

May God have mercy, 'cause Bush won't.


Biped Planetisall

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
There's really no discussion; if you support lies, torture & war profiteering, then you are in Congress with the Beast.


Those people are in congress!?

Oh wait, I guess some of them actually are...

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:23 PM

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Originally posted by Khyron:


Oh wait, I guess some of them actually are...


Yes, in point of fact.

isall

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:52 PM

bumped to stir trouble

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:56 PM

[Bush voice]Yer one a-them trouble-stirrers, aintcha? Heh-heh.[/Bush voice]



"I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat-" - King Crimson, Indiscipline

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:34 PM

You tell 'em, Cisall!!!


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Friday, June 13, 2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
There's really no discussion; if you support lies, torture & war profiteering, then you are in Congress with the Beast. You are evil by mis-interpreting reality, or by embracing greed by way of death.

May God have mercy, 'cause Bush won't.


Biped Planetisall




I don't support lies, and Bush has not told any. I flat out don't agree w/ your premise, so I am for Bush, for freedom and will back him , his mission anywhere, all day long, for as long as I live.

Further, it is YOU who is evil, for being a knowing , willing useful idiot for those who want to destroy Western civilization, force women into Burkas, force girls into having their bodies mutilated, and all that is backwards and evil

May Shiva have no mercy on your worthless hides.



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Friday, June 13, 2008 12:35 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/06/11/f-rfa-macdonald.html

The blueprint for Forward Base America
Last Updated: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 | 7:14 PM ET Comments30Recommend60
By Neil Macdonald CBC News

Like the guy in the movie yelling pointlessly out the window how he's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore, American voters have a persistent fantasy about their own transformative powers.

They want out of Iraq, which is understandable. Beyond all the corpses, walking wounded and destruction, George W. Bush's expeditionary adventure in social engineering is costing Americans $2 billion a week and there are all sorts of good uses for cash like that here at home.

But most Americans don't understand what is going on right now, urgently and secretly, in Baghdad and Washington. Nor do they realize it may be part of a grand plan, hatched by the same conservative group that brought about the war on Iraq in the first place.

The story began to emerge in a report last week by Patrick Cockburn, the authoritative Middle East correspondent for the Independent.

The gist of it is this: As Bush's term winds down, the administration is urgently pushing for a new "status of forces agreement" with the Iraqi government that would effectively set up an indefinite occupation of Iraq. American negotiators want the deal signed by the end of July. The Iraqis aren't happy.

The United States is reported to be demanding the right to establish up to 58 military bases, jurisdiction over Iraqi airspace up to 30,000 feet, permanent immunity from prosecution for American troops and civilian contractors, and the continuing right to arrest and imprison Iraqis that the U.S. authorities deem a threat, even if the Iraqi government doesn't.
A plan foretold

Cockburn reported that the Bush administration is strongly opposed to any Iraqi referendum on the proposal, for obvious reasons.

Most Iraqis want the Americans gone as soon as possible, not entrenched indefinitely, and everyone there knows better than to go anywhere near the private-sector mercenaries who guard American diplomats and American interests. When they harm and even kill Iraqis, they get to walk away without so much as a by-your-leave. (Usually, they're just transferred back to the U.S.)

"We are being asked to sign for our own occupation," Iraqi lawmaker Jalal al Din al Saghir told McClatchy Newspapers. "Is there sovereignty for Iraq — or isn't there? If it is left to them, they would ask for immunity even for the American dogs."

Neither the negotiations, nor their implications, have received much ink or attention here in the U.S. The Bush administration refuses to discuss the matter and is taking the view that Congress has no role.

Republican presidential nominee John McCain, who believes the U.S. can "win" the Iraq war, has refused to comment on the plan. His opponent, Democrat Barack Obama, who favours a "careful" withdrawal of U.S. troops, has said only that he opposes creation of any permanent American bases in Iraq.

But none of this should be any surprise. In fact, the conservatives who surround Bush explicitly telegraphed their intentions years ago.
The blueprint

Back in 2000, with a Democrat still in the White House, a neo-conservative think tank called the Project for a New American Century produced a document titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses."

PNAC was sponsored by some stellar conservatives. Among them, the current vice-president, Dick Cheney; the former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld; a war planner named Paul Wolfowitz; and a pantheon of other hawks from the political and Christian right.

Among other things, the September 2000 manifesto proposed military solutions for anything standing in the way of a worldwide Pax Americana.

The PNAC plan called for regime change as a tool of U.S. foreign policy and a strengthening of American military might so as to enable the fighting of simultaneous wars, all in pursuit of an American "benevolent hegemony," to borrow the phrasing of columnist William Kristol, another PNAC stalw

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Friday, June 13, 2008 12:41 AM

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I don't support lies, and Bush has not told any.



The problem is, you DO support lies. Saying you don't, and that Bush hasn't told any, is in and of itself a lie.

To say that Bush has never, ever, EVER lied... is a lie.

So you see, you do indeed support lies and the lying liars to tell them. Now and forever more.

Mike

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RUE
Friday, June 13, 2008 12:42 AM

Rap

Do you even read what you write ? And if you do, does the unhinged-crazy-talk quality ever concern you ?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don't support lies, and Bush has not told any. I flat out don't agree w/ your premise, so I am for Bush, for freedom and will back him , his mission anywhere, all day long, for as long as I live.

Further, it is YOU who is evil, for being a knowing , willing useful idiot for those who want to destroy Western civilization, force women into Burkas, force girls into having their bodies mutilated, and all that is backwards and evil

May Shiva have no mercy on your worthless hides.



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