Our President

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, May 5, 2004 7:56 PM

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=2557452&pid=r&mode=ALL&query=c
heney&t=s
http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=2557452&pid=r&mode=ALL&query=p
erle&t=s
http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=2557452&pid=r&mode=ALL&query=w
olfowitz&t=s

So, why couldn't you do this yourself?
"I didn't have enough time"? Or maybe
"I don't know how to Google"? Or better yet! ...
"I really don't care what our leaders are thinking"?

My God, you guys are cowards! This is all from the PNAC website itself, which you could have looked up (but didn't) and I'm sure you won't look up even when it's handed to you. I should buy you each a T-shirt: "I am NOT in denial!"

I do have a question for you all, though, and it is related to Firefly- What is it that attracted you to the show? Was it Mal's desire to evade being crushed by the Alliance's military? His general scepticism of large governments? His desire to live and think independently? His "do it yourself" view of creating a moral code? His bravery? His inability to stomach jingoism and arrogance? Just curious.

GHOULMAN

Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ruxton:
Ghoulman, your grasp of facts is mostly irreproachable. Most of the posters here seem agree with you. I'd suggest you ignore all three major dummies, as I have, and not waste your valuable time and energy responding to them.

.......Ruxton

Thanx. :)

RUXTON

Thursday, May 6, 2004 6:22 PM

Doran, you said:

"...it appears you are condeming the Bush administration as unfeeling and caring because of a gut feeling of your own. I don't have that gut feeling."

In light of Mr. Bush's recent FAILURE to apologize for the atrocities I mentioned in my last post above, which no one has had the guts to touch, do you still feel the same about him?

Do you care that the rest of the world is pissed at us because of this?

Are you aware that the President knew of ongoing torture since January? Are you aware that the Red Cross has tried for months to get someone to do something about it? If not, you need to do some readin'. If so, how can you, or anyone, still think Bush and his henchmen are good and just persons?

Or are the torture pictures just red herrings to keep the eyes of U.S. citizens off the U.S. defeat at Fallujah, as reported by Al Jazeera?
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Finally, I don't know if any rockets were fired into the towers. However, if one assumes that might have happened, one must then ask why was a rocket necessary? So far as I have been able to determine, kerosene or aircraft fuel does not normally explode like a bomb, unless some other explosion sets it off. But an on-board bomb could have done the same. My guess is, if in fact a rocket was used, there was a perceived need to "soften" the entry point so the plane with all its fuel would be sure to get inside, rather than burst on the exterior of the towers. There seems to be a great lack of debris from the aircraft flying back from the entry point.

We do know Building 7 of the center was ordered "pulled," or demolished. This has been established. (No, quaddies, I'm not going to waste my time giving sources. Do it yourself, like I did.) But it seems like the only reason to have a fireball within the towers would be to give visual evidence that might lead viewers to think the towers fell of their own accord. But we know firefighters heard bombs going off just before the towers fell, lending credence to the demolition theory. (Recordings of those conversations exist.) So it would seem that there was a need for the towers to fall. We know there was a great rush to get rid of the collapsed evidence. Again, fire-fighting teams deplored the lack of an investigation of that evidence.

I have no more time to wait for this too-long thread to load. Good luck to you all.

.........Ruxton

ps: Ghoulman, you're welcome. I recommend SignyM do the same thing.

Pps: The payoff for the towers was, I believe, three billion dollars.

SCOTTI

Friday, May 7, 2004 7:31 AM

I swore I wouldn't "pimp" out my website here, but I just can't help myself. There have been so many well-articulated posts here (and more than a couple obtuse ones...) that I want to invite you all to a website I'm working on with a few of my friends:

http://www.thebraindump.com

Basically it's just a place we gather to discuss whatever we want. There's a comment area for every post, so feel free to leave your thoughts there for now. I already have an idea of who I'd like to see there (hero, doran, nervouspete, soundhack, etc.) and who I'd rather not ... well, they'll figure it out.

Looking forward to seeing some of you there, and thanks for the great reading here.

(For the record, I'm currently in Kuwait, and have more than a few opinions of my own of what's going on over here)

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Mal: You are very much lacking in imagination.
Zoe: I imagine that's so, sir.

SIGNYM

Sunday, May 9, 2004 1:01 PM

I went over to the brain dump and the text crapped out into garbage about 1/5 of the way down. I think you're one bit off in your ASCII.

SCOTTI

Sunday, May 9, 2004 3:49 PM

... first time I've heard this... what browser are you using. This happen to anyone else?

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Mal: You are very much lacking in imagination.
Zoe: I imagine that's so, sir.

SIGNYM

Sunday, May 9, 2004 4:00 PM

I'll try again. MAybe it was just a glitch.

ECMORGAN69

Sunday, May 9, 2004 5:42 PM

Just my two cents...

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

Oh yeah, you, FOX TV!!

SIGNYM

Sunday, May 9, 2004 5:55 PM

oops double post

SIGNYM

Sunday, May 9, 2004 5:56 PM

That's not nice, especially to the parent of a retarded child. Here's my "other" internet home:

http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=109

Read it and gain some humility.

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