More Subtle yet interesting show observations - post yours

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UPDATED: Friday, December 19, 2008 17:29
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SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:18 AM

Yes, that scene with Book and Inara is one of my favs, among many. It always gets me. I too feel that Book's confession to Inara is his way of seeking forgiveness for not protecting the lawman, but not only that, the fact that he felts it was right to shoot him in that situation. The gesture of placing her hand on his head seemingly blessing him is a great shot. GREAT SCENE, period.

Inara is extremely wise and often imparts her wisdom and her take on the decisions Mal makes. But that is a recurring theme throughout FF. The women advise with solid wisdom. For instance, Zoe's comments to Mal about never leaving a man behind influences Mal's decision to continue to harbor the fugitives.

Shiny! Let's be bad guys!

ASARIAN

Sunday, June 8, 2008 12:20 PM

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What's most interesting though is that we got no "read" from Kaylee. Is it something that is buried deep within Kaylee's subconcious? Someone had mentioned in another post that Kaylee did not answer Jubal when he asked if she had ever been raped. It is a very interesting theory. As for Wash and Zoe - all she could feel was their love and passion for each other.

I once made an attempt to analyze the audio:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=4&t=31398

Perhaps you find it of pertinence to your observations, too. :)

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

YELLOWJACKET

Monday, June 9, 2008 12:01 AM

I always thought that it was implied that the reavers shot them down or forced them down. Jaynes mentions that the ship was "banged up
all to hell".

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, June 9, 2008 9:07 AM

The councilor's bodyguard always catches me off guard. suit from Morris Day or 90's Arsenio Hall, and wearing those cereal-box sunglasses. Cracks me up a little each time.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, June 16, 2008 5:59 AM

Many have mentioned Mal kissing his cross in the BOSV scene of Pilot Serenity.
After watching Saving Private Ryan again yesterday, I had noticed that Jackson (Barry Pepper) the sniper several times kissed his cross before engaging. I had often assumed it was, in his case, for advance forgiveness from the Almighty for those he was about to most surely kill - for he was a good sniper. This time I considered it was possibly a prayer for the soul of the target he was about to send home. I also wondered if it was instead a request to the Lord that he could be spared from death in this incident. He was usually shooting from a position of concealment, defilade.

I never got the impression from Mal in BOSV (yeah, I noticed the cross kissing the first time) that he could be praying for those he was about to terminate, or for forgiveness from the Lord for the sin of killing a man he was about to do, but rather just for him to survive the current situation.
Anybody think it was for any other reason? I can't see Mal caring that much about Alliance to consider them worthy of a prayer from him.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:56 AM

Some subtle bits I've noticed in BDM: when Kaylee tells Mal "tell that to Inara" the way Wash looks down and backs away for Kaylee to leave makes me grin, and back on the ship when Jayne asks why River is back on board, Mal glances at Zoe, she looks down, they seem in agreement, and it's a continuation of their "we used to not leave a man behind" exchange.
Always like Joss's jab when the lab guy refers to teachers as scary monsters in River's nightmare.

One I hadn't caught before:
When Mr Universe explains that the Alliance has gone to great trouble to find your little friend, and find her they have, the look of chagrin Mal gave I had always figured was like woe is me, we are in trouble now. But this time I realized it was actually Mal realizing just how right Simon was, objecting to River going to Lilac, trying to keep River away from the tentacles of the Alliance, and how it was Mal who thrust River into a time and place where she got triggered, and is his fault, his responsibility to set things right. Never got that before today.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:26 AM

More on BDM:
On Miranda, the Research and Rescue vehicle is labeled C53D. Also, the first vehicle (car like) that Jayne finds with a withered victim is also labeled C53D in the same font.
Regarding the smaller vehicle, I don't understand why it has the same model name or logo. If it came with the crashed vehicle that investigated the deaths, how quick did this stuff act to make the driver just stop, after just arriving on planet?

Regarding the C53D, I had always assumed it to be homage to the helicopter CH53D Sea Stallion, upgraded to the CH53E Super Stallion, and one version is the MH53J Pave Low used for Search and Rescue missions. I figured the discrepancy was just the non-technical nature of Joss.

SALAMANDER95

Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:04 PM

I was particulary happy to see a Rhino Iguana. I can't for the life of me remember which episode? (I've only been watching Firefly for 3 months now). Aside from the domestic animals I think that was the only other animal in the show.

SCATHAC

Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:27 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
could be praying for those he was about to terminate, or for forgiveness from the Lord for the sin of killing a man he was about to do, but rather just for him to survive the current situation.
Anybody think it was for any other reason? I can't see Mal caring that much about Alliance to consider them worthy of a prayer from him.

I've always seen that moment as a prayer for survival and possibly, to succeed. See, Zoe says something like, you really think we can bring it down? And Mal says, do you even need to ask, but then pauses, momentary flash of fear and doubt (that he can't vocalize, or he would destroy the moral of Zoe and his other men) so he puts his faith in God and kisses his cross, prays. And of course, he succeeds at first, but then loses the war, all of his men dying but Zoe, he loses his faith in God, which we all know about.

At least, that's what I always thought.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, July 4, 2008 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by Salamander95:
I was particulary happy to see a Rhino Iguana. I can't for the life of me remember which episode? (I've only been watching Firefly for 3 months now). Aside from the domestic animals I think that was the only other animal in the show.

I think you are referring to BDM Serenity. After the Lilac heist, arriving at the Plaza Atoll on Beaumonde, heading for Maidenhead bar. They dock, close up on some bike rider, passing the caged lizard, bathed in neon.
On the DVD, select scene 6 "Triggered"

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