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Ain't It Cool News Review of the FIRST Pilot Script.

POSTED BY: Jonwes
UPDATED: Monday, August 19, 2002 20:57
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Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:17 AM

Okay, this could be VERY old news to everyone, but I didn't see a mention of it here and it was new to me. Ain't It Cool reviewed the script for the FIRST pilot (that is now being moved back in favor of the new one hour pilot.) I only skimmed it because I didn't want to be spoiled, but it was very positive.

Here's the non-spoiler bit:


Initially, I was surprised at how dark and relatively humourless the story was, and how it seemed to be treading ground that had been tread before. But it evolves, revealing itself, surprising continually, and most importantly, entertaining. It doesn’t let up. In the way of Whedon, even the familiarity of the genre is used against the reader to twist expectations. There is humour, don’t misunderstand me, but it’s honest to the world he’s created. It’s from the characters, and appropriate to the moments.

This has the potential to be the post-millennium Star Trek, and I mean it that as a compliment. Don’t expect aliens, it’s human and human behaviour. It explores themes of family, morality, survival, and the existence of God, all packed into a whacking good adventure. Mr. Whedon knows how to tell a story, and he’s a hell of a director. Expect moments like the Reavers (to which I haven’t done justice) to have you standing on your couch. I believe that even audiences who would normally avoid Sci-Fi will find something real here for them. For audiences who are looking for a new Buffy, or Angel, you haven’t found it – you’ve found something different, darker, but ultimately satisfying.


http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=11621

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Saturday, May 18, 2002 5:17 PM

Yeah, that review is a bit old. And, obviously, while the that particular pilot looked great on paper, it wasn't good enough for the FOX execs. Makes me wonder what's in the new Firefly pilot for Joss "The Slayer" to depose "King of the World" Cameron.

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Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:14 AM


Originally posted by Haken:
Joss "The Slayer" to depose "King of the World" Cameron.


Celebrity Boxing, anyone?

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Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:32 AM


Originally posted by Haken:
it wasn't good enough for the FOX execs.


Well... not being good enough for FOX execs really doesn't say anything to me. They are, after all, the ones who cancelled "Undeclared," "The Family Guy," "The Tick," "Greg the Bunny," and "Ally McBeal," in favor of shows like "Septuplets," "Berni Mac," "Fast Lane," and a show starring Randy Quaid *cringe*

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Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:02 PM

Firefly smells like a cross between a Traveller (TM) game and "Johnny Yuma, the Rebel" from 60's B&W TV.

Cool if they can keep up the level of writting we've seen in most of the Buffy and Angel shows.

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Saturday, June 1, 2002 2:56 AM

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Firefly smells like a cross between a Traveller (TM) game and "Johnny Yuma, the Rebel" from 60's B&W TV.

Cool if they can keep up the level of writting we've seen in most of the Buffy and Angel shows.



Noo, it would've been cool if they kept Dark Angel on the air.

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Friday, June 14, 2002 8:24 PM

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Firefly smells like a cross between a Traveller (TM) game and "Johnny Yuma, the Rebel" from 60's B&W TV.

I think The Rebel was basically a ripoff of The Searchers.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0049730

Which movie Whedon has cited as influential in Firefly.

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Saturday, June 15, 2002 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by Shoe:
Quote:

Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Firefly smells like a cross between a Traveller (TM) game and "Johnny Yuma, the Rebel" from 60's B&W TV.

Cool if they can keep up the level of writting we've seen in most of the Buffy and Angel shows.



Noo, it would've been cool if they kept Dark Angel on the air.




True, but FOX had to deal with some unpleasant realities: "Dark Angel" tended to be repeatedly behind schedule and over budget and had been doing only marginally well in the Friday timeslot that frustratingly FOX had been trying for years to successfully fill, with little luck. Now, factor in that James Cameron was an imperious tyrant to work with. Do you continue with the big-name head-poundingly difficult Cameron product that has been steadily loosing viewers, and money, hoping that the costs can be absorbed over time and that ratings will improve, or do you cut your losses and try something else, perhaps with a man in charge that is easier for the network to deal with? Obviously, FOX chose the latter.

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Saturday, June 15, 2002 5:23 PM

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Originally posted by novagrass:


Well... not being good enough for FOX execs really doesn't say anything to me. They are, after all, the ones who cancelled "Undeclared," "The Family Guy," "The Tick," "Greg the Bunny," and "Ally McBeal," in favor of shows like "Septuplets," "Berni Mac," "Fast Lane," and a show starring Randy Quaid *cringe*




No... Not the Family Guy! Come ON! That show was hilarious! Comparable to the most holy and sacred Simpsones!

Dude, the people at Fox WANT to fail. I'm almost convinced of this fact.

Pandora

"Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies
and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me." -Ralph Wiggum

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Saturday, June 15, 2002 6:08 PM

Hey!
Bernie Mac is a well written show, but i agree on the patheticness of the others you listed, incl. shows like Boston Public, really, how much contreversoy(sP?) does one school have? On the streets of Harlem there isnt that kind of contreversory.

ps. Centreversory, I'm so damn tired, I cant remember how to bloody spell it

Uh, is the tag the same as the signature?

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